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I have another story very similar to this one and the proof are in the hands of the right authorities already...

A very close friend got assaulted in his house. It was one bad boy he had employed in a restaurant he owned in Beirut 3a 2ases mawneh from a close person of his. That boy pretended he was from the postal services and when my friend opened his door, he saw a gun pointed at his head. The boy took all his money, his ID and threatened him that if he doesn't get him a certain amount of money within one hour, he will kill his family and everyone he knows. The man took the money and went to the meeting place and took with him the police. They arrested the boy and placed him in prison. My friend raised a law case against him for this incident.

Very ironically, a very highly renowned FPM activist (I refrain from naming him here unless anybody dares challenge my credibility), his initials are M.M and he used to be a highly ranked committee coordinator in the region of Beirut, calls my friend every day (he even had no shame declaring his identity and even more dangerously dares speak in the name of FPM on the phone), day for over two weeks after the incident, "ordering" him to drop the law case because the criminal boy is an FPM supporter!


Tsawwaro ya3neh!

Luckily, my friend is an FPM supporter and a very high-profile cultural and economic figure in Beirut. He felt sad about the attitude of that so-called FPMer... My advice was definitely: "Don't you even think of dropping your legal rights!"
look CB ne7na mech 3am nel3ab hon!! Name the person ur talking about unless u are scared to do it!! This story is dangerous and if it's true I would like u to name them all name by name! I'm against such behaviors and this M.M guy should be out of FPM as soon as possible! akid 2eza ur story is true! So name this person let all the FPMers know who's this guy.
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The thread is not about AMAL my friend. It's about a new low political attitude by FPM's members. It's not about Amal walla gheir Amal.
Check the story above and you'll get more insight.
And don't get dragged into emotional reactions... Tawwil belak no need for generalizations :)
True,

But it seems that FPM seems to cover for ALL WRONGDOINGS its ALLIES (and partisans, such as the case u mentioned) are committing, which is NOT the FPM we love, the FPM that knows no ''zwerib'' and ''deals'' when it comes to justice...
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look CB ne7na mech 3am nel3ab hon!! Name the person ur talking about unless u are scared to do it!! This story is dangerous and if it's true I would like u to name them all name by name! I'm against such behaviors and this M.M guy should be out of FPM as soon as possible! akid 2eza ur story is true! So name this person let all the FPMers know who's this guy.
The guy already "t7ajjam" in FPM. I don't want to get into names in public.

The issue is not in the name. Believe me that person will get his share of destructive humiliation for his acts, in the right places and with the right people. But this is definitely not going to happen on a public forum.

And anyway, the story was reported in newspapers back then and I do not have the right to embarrass "my friend" in such a way. I had already hesitated a lot before mentioning this story here because it touches me deep in the heart to expose such a thing in public.

Had it happened with me personally and not reported to me as the case was here, I would have said everything you ask for, but since it's not the case, it would be very unethical from my side. So I'm sorry I can't go by your wishes...
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FPM that knows no ''zwerib'' and ''deals'' when it comes to justice...
The word "FPM" mentioned in this sentence is hijacked nowadays... The hijacking process took a long time because our resistance was very strong but failed to stop it.

The ball is now in every FPMer's court. Either stand and save the hostage or bare the responsibility of FPM's sooner-than-even fatal fate...
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Im just passing what the general feeling is, especially that this is not the first incident, "Samer Hana's incident" coasted us Batroun and even Koura elections, and the criminal got out of jail.

Since 2005, many incidents were reported about thugs from Chiyeh entering Ain el Remeneh and causing troubles, no action was taken to prevent the repetition of such incidents and a good man is now dead.

We can hide behind our fingers and pretend nothing is happening but some people like Bassam are refusing to do that, and since this Forum is for all FPMers, they have all the right to say whatever they want to say.
X, I respect what you just said.

I'm sure this forum will always be what we consider ''our home''.

I guess activists like CB will never give up no matter what others say.

Ma ra7 nkoun gairna shu baddo yena nkoun, NO.

Motammaridona 7atta elmawt 3ala ayy shay2 yakoun 3aks kiyam wmabadi2 eltayyar elwatani el7orr wyelli mish 3ejbo ...
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True,

But it seems that FPM seems to cover for ALL WRONGDOINGS its ALLIES (and partisans, such as the case u mentioned) are committing, which is NOT the FPM we love, the FPM that knows no ''zwerib'' and ''deals'' when it comes to justice...
FPM is not covering anyone! Where do u see GMA covering his allies??
Yesterday GMA said
لن نسمح بأن تصبح دراجة عين الرمانة مكان بوسطة عين الرمانة ومن يلعبون بالنار فليتوقفوا لأن الاستغلال السياسي والظهور الميليشيوي ممنوع وهذه مسؤولية القوى الأمنية. واللغة الميليشيوية بما يتعلق بأحداث مماثلة ممنوعة. نحن ندين الوقائع ونطلب من القضاء أن يكون قاسيًا وسريعًا وإلا يصبح الناس شركاء في الجريمة ويضيعون معالمها والمسؤوليات".

What do u want him to do more? just like LF hold weapons and go on the streets and fight??

The problem with FPM is that there's some people who should be out of this party la2an ra7 tsir mazra3a!!
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The word "FPM" mentioned in this sentence is hijacked nowadays... The hijacking process took a long time because our resistance was very strong but failed to stop it.

The ball is now in every FPMer's court. Either stand and save the hostage or bare the responsibility of FPM's sooner-than-even fatal fate...
Bassam please enlighten us further about the highlighted part and dont speak in codes.

3teberne ahbal khayye and explain to me how FPM was hijacked, w eza it's too sensitive at least PM me, but u cant throw blunt accusations such as the one u mentionned without providing substantial examples and data.

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The guy already "t7ajjam" in FPM. I don't want to get into names in public.

The issue is not in the name. Believe me that person will get his share of destructive humiliation for his acts, in the right places and with the right people. But this is definitely not going to happen on a public forum.

And anyway, the story was reported in newspapers back then and I do not have the right to embarrass "my friend" in such a way. I had already hesitated a lot before mentioning this story here because it touches me deep in the heart to expose such a thing in public.

Had it happened with me personally and not reported to me as the case was here, I would have said everything you ask for, but since it's not the case, it would be very unethical from my side. So I'm sorry I can't go by your wishes...
It is not only my wish it's everyone's wish to know what is happening in this party! If u can't say it mitil mahiye w tbe2 l ba7sa laken why did u talk about it in the first place!!
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Bassam please enlighten us further about the highlighted part and dont speak in codes.

3teberne ahbal khayye and explain to me how FPM was hijacked, w eza it's too sensitive at least PM me, but u cant throw blunt accusations such as the one u mentionned without providing substantial examples and data.

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No problem my friend. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.

What I meant is that a bad culture is governing all the ranks of FPM, a culture of corrupt mentalities, of stupidity and low IQ, of ex-criminals in some places... I see very slight difference (Allah men fo2 yer2af fina w ytawwil bi 3omro lal General la2anno men douno ma ken fi hal difference) between FPM today and the Lebanese Forces that we used to laugh at a few years ago.

That bad culture hijacked FPM because it almost invaded all the ranks. We reached a level where our resistance should shift to different levels and philosophies because the situation is unbarable anymore.

Ask me about anything in FPM and I will keep writing you hundreds of bad stories we encounter every day since years w 3am men 3odd 3al jere7 w n2atil w n2ewim...

Bass se3et yalli mnen7echir bel zewyeh, allah ynajjeh el bachariyyeh men ghadabna!
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It is not only my wish it's everyone's wish to know what is happening in this party! If u can't say it mitil mahiye w tbe2 l ba7sa laken why did u talk about it in the first place!!
To say that this attitude is happening in FPM. W hayde ba3da hayyneh 2eddem gheir echya 3ala kell el so3od w bi kell zewyeh men el tayyar. This is why I always used to comment with one word "sterouna" when someone mentions corruption in some other older threads.

Now that you know this attitude exists, why do you care about the names since I am promising they will be accordingly humiliated?
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