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Again as I said already many times... The problem is not with the party but with the spirits making it.

We need to work on the person's level. We need to build and enhance our political culture and we need to keep reviving active spirits.

The party is fine! It needs reforms yes but those reforms are not indispensable for free citizens to act towards their daily and lifetime national and individual issues.

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Tayyib lek, I'm gonna make it a lot easier on you :

How are you planning on building and enhancing this political culture ?

PRACTICALLY ! What's the plan you propose ?
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Golden words, can't agree more, i have been criticized every time i raised those ideas but reality can not be hidden. FPM "was" the non traditional Lebanese party that threw away all rotten and mid-ages mentality of sectarianism and feudalism, never tolerated any kind of corruption or extremism. In a simpler expression, FPM preferred to stay out of the game and all those dirty stuff.

We used to have great will and passion to do stuff because we WERE BUILDING A COUNTRY and a NEW MENTALITY now what? working to prove the leadership of the Christian street, restore the authorities of the president? WHO THE ***** CARES?

FPM meetings were so important and exciting, i even used to attend an hour earlier to have mature discussions with intellectual people, now it's so sick the whole dialog is about "sunna", "shiaa", "masi7iye". WTF? leish!!?

I don't know what should be done, but in my opinion getting things straight again is harder than building something new. Want to be a social organization? Let it be as long we can adopt back those great values.
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FPM should return to the days when it was a movement and for ALL the lebanese not a section of them.
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As Martin Luther King once said, A time comes when silence is betrayal... and that time has come for us!

Although I don't agree with the entire message you have wrote CB - mainly some unclear insinuations and unfair accusations to the detriment of hardworking FPMers.
But aside from the generalization, it is indeed a shame what has happened to FPM in less then 4 years!
Sure with all its misery, FPM still outsmarts the other lebanon [pseudo]parties but it is not an excuse to accept the [off]road the movement & some of its partisans has taken.

IMHO now is the time to fix this mess and get back OUR hijacked party...
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I remember that an invaluable thread was opened after the elections, suggesting methods to improve FPM's overall being.

I don't know if those suggestions were given the deserved and required attention.
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This kind of debate and counter debate that keeps coming again and again, is in itself what distinguishes FPM and FPMers from others, and what puts FPM in my high consideration and respect.
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Here is what General Aoun said in 2005:
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13. Juin. 2005 Naharnet: Aoun shot back from his Rabieh mansion. "This human being is very dangerous. Instead of gracefully accepting defeat, he reacts with violent threats. This is a political contest. We're not fighting a shooting war and we hope Jumblat would return to his senses and abstain from warlike sectarian agitation," the General said.

"The true man is the one who knows how to lose, not how to win," Aoun went on at an overnight news conference. "We have long endured the loss in our life and we take victory with the same stance. Let me remind Jumblat of Kipling's poem."

Aoun said he was willing to talk with other groupings in the new parliament and, if there were no agreement, he and his allies would be in the opposition "carrying out our duties."
[IF]

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

--Rudyard Kipling

Back in 2005 G. Aoun spoke about the MAN WITH VIRTUE.

Today VIRTUE is required. Will G. Aoun today address this poem to FPM as he did in 2005 when he addressed it to Jumblatt?
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I stopped being active , even i am not an FPM er anymore . i have my problems my dreams my own vision . Its not realted to Tayyar vision . i discovered the civil society , Amazing . ive learned Leadership and what the word "responsible " mean. Over there i can say my opinion Loud and VERY LOud . none will tell : You have no right to say this , since "treikhik - terikho - terikh tayyar ...

I belive in lebanon . i really do . and i know that one day ill get back my country :)
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I stopped being active , even i am not an FPM er anymore . i have my problems my dreams my own vision . Its not realted to Tayyar vision . i discovered the civil society , Amazing . ive learned Leadership and what the word "responsible " mean. Over there i can say my opinion Loud and VERY LOud . none will tell : You have no right to say this , since "treikhik - terikho - terikh tayyar ...

I belive in lebanon . i really do . and i know that one day ill get back my country :)
Let me correct you: You have just felt how to live your FPM spirit in a different way.
FPM is a mission and not a frame that you can go in and out of.
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Let me correct you: You have just felt how to live your FPM spirit in a different way.
FPM is a mission and not a frame that you can go in and out of.
:) , You know better Bassam , but after all We should focus on "Service above self " , and I am doing this in civil society and different NGO's . ive learned to live lebanon Loud very Loud without saying :

انا سنية من بيروت ، انا مسيحية من كسروان ، انا درزي من عليه ، انا شيعية من زقاق البلاط ...
انا ناشطة في وطني ، اعمل من اجل تحريك مجتمع مدني غرق في السياسية وتفاصيل السياسية ، يعتقد ان اي عمل هو عمل مدفوع وغير مجاني ، واذا بتعطي رايك بفكرك لهدف مادي . هكذا هي العقلية اللبنانية ، في السياسية ان كنت ناشطا تبحث دائما عن اثبات الراي الواحد وفي فكر التقليدي هؤلاء يبحثون دائما عن احزاب جامدة اي :

Static : DO not evaluate , NO innovation ... No evolution , like the czse of FPM . FPm t7awal for a static rigid party . and u can feel this in OTV ( u know better ) in Tayyar.org and soon in Sawt l mada since its a same spirit ..
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