Open message to all fellow free activists!

[Shuyu3i]

Originally Posted by supersonichadi

I think the thread has gone far away beyound what his maker has intended. We are speaking about fixing things, not making a coup or another party as someone has said.

I don't think anyone is talking about another party or a coup and if they are they are WRONG. They need to restore the faith of the people by standing by the principles they once had. They have gone off their principles. Maybe its a hard thing to do with this kind of environment in lebanon but they will win the respect of the people.

[Comrade Bassam]

Originally Posted by The Jade

Again, as much as you might do, nothing will come out of it if Michel Aoun doesn't sign off on it.

LOL... With such a mentality, I wonder what makes you eligible to make any critic similar to the one I am doing of FPM.
Bassam thinks, Bassam communicates, Bassam plans, Bassam decides, Bassam leads the way and calls whoever wishes to join.
This is Michel Aoun, this is Aounism, this is FPM.

[Shuyu3i]

Originally Posted by Comrade Bassam

Deja-vu... Khlosna menna hal khabriyyeh... Anyway you "shuyu3i" guys are so much in love with rhetorics, it's in your blood so ma fi 3atab...

ya khayii when you can't fight me with words you start abusing me? what im saying is correct and you will see it in the up coming elections in 2010.

[Comrade Bassam]

Originally Posted by Shuyu3i

ya khayii when you can't fight me with words you start abusing me? what im saying is correct and you will see it in the up coming elections in 2010.

We work according to what's logical to do and according to our heart and brain principles and according to our conscience. We never look towards winning elections when we set political guidelines.

When it comes to convictions, it's a matter of conviction and we go by it.

Whoever wishes to approve on them whether through elections or I don't know what is welcome. Otherwise, since we believe our conviction is the good one, henneh el khesranin.

Elections change nothing in our convictions.

[Shuyu3i]

Originally Posted by Comrade Bassam

We work according to what's logical to do and according to our heart and brain principles and according to our conscience. We never look towards winning elections when we set political guidelines.

When it comes to convictions, it's a matter of conviction and we go by it.

Whoever wishes to approve on them whether through elections or I don't know what is welcome. Otherwise, since we believe our conviction is the good one, henneh el khesranin.

Elections change nothing in our convictions.

nice Comrade Bassam but without WINNING the elections there is no CHANGE happening anytime soon. You will keep on talking about it and no action!!

[supersonichadi]

Originally Posted by Shuyu3i

I don't think anyone is talking about another party or a coup and if they are they are WRONG. They need to restore the faith of the people by standing by the principles they once had. They have gone off their principles. Maybe its a hard thing to do with this kind of environment in lebanon but they will win the respect of the people.

I don't think it's hard, FPM won 21 MP in 2005 by holding these principles

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by Comrade Bassam

LOL... With such a mentality, I wonder what makes you eligible to make any critic similar to the one I am doing of FPM.
Bassam thinks, Bassam communicates, Bassam plans, Bassam decides, Bassam leads the way and calls whoever wishes to join.
This is Michel Aoun, this is Aounism, this is FPM.

mmm ok let's see....

Now we have 2 situations/problems:

1) I believe, based on my experience and my info that Michel Aoun is the one who signs off on anything substantially important in the party. Now if you can do everything you said you can this means that it won't have a big enough impace on the party.
And that's a problem because it makes it a one man show.

2) If you by Bassam thinks, etc etc you imply that anyone who embraces (or thinks he embraces) FPM's principles can work in the name of he latter then you have a HUGE HUGE problem.
With no real frame of work, with different opinions, different mentalities, different actions, a job that may take you 2 months to finish will take you 3 years (that is IF you can do the job).
You'll have actions cancelling others, you'll have complete chaos.

Not to forget the newlyborn Aounists who believe they embrace the party's principles because they named their kids Michel or because they only wear Orange.


Without a structure, FPM will be another Ketlé....a useless party with only good intentions to base itself on.

[Greg Davis]

Comrade Bassam,

When the Syrian regime occupied Lebanon, activism was a means to vent one's frustration. Frustration from years of oppression, and all the misery that came with it.
As the Syrians left, the hype of their departure and the return of GMA with his phenomenon ''FPM'' offered many Lebanese hope.

With every step the FPM take that contradicts the virtues that formed the FPM, the less faith people have in lebanon's future.

One can put a spin on every contradictory step he takes, but people are not as stupid as politicians think.

When parliamentary votes are bought in auction, Cover is given to militias carrying weapons and attack their fellow citizens,
the government doesn't have a say in war and peace, Numerous prisoners of war are still detained in Syria, The government and parliament are literally nute
the Country is in un-sustainable debt,
The infrastructure is a shambles,

People no longer believe in the alternatives that were proposed by the FPM, and have resorted to their survival instincts 'sectarianism' instead.

It would be very difficult to reverse such instincts without major positive events in Lebanon. As patriot as people are, most just wanna live .

[Abou Sandal]

I'll try to make a little feasible suggestion here, so maybe someone might catch it.

I said before that the only way to change things around is to create a political weight within FPM, in order to have a piece in the internal process of decision making.

I think that as a first step, the old activists should gather themselves, and create a group or an association of about a hundred or more members, whose mission is to keep the spirit alive within the Party.

The mission of such association is to press and lobby for IDEALS, to be as much respected and observed, within the political actions of the Party, both on the internal and on the external level.

Again, the mission is not to mingle in the political decision itself, or to impose it, but just to orient it, by pushing forward for IDEALS to be respected. I'm being very clear about this, because the moment this association mingles in political decisions, it becomes itself politicized. Which is something to avoid, since the real aim is to keep the spirit alive and try to implement it in public life.

This association might eventually mingle in the political decision of the Party in only rare occasions, where a clear necessity of high priority commands it, and within a clear general mood inside the association itself of a unanimity around such action. But this should only be a rare exception.

The Party is the adequate structure to deal with politics, and the association could help by being the adequate back up, that preserves its spirit and ideals.

Now the most important step:

This association should issue a high quality magazine where it can expose its ideals, its course of action, where it can point out at many issues, reveal corruption, highlight its activities, recruit, educate....

For a budget of 3000$ to 5000$ a month, this is feasible...Until it can finance itself by many independent ways.

But the most important thing for this association of old activists, is to show its support for FPM, while at the same time, prove its integrity and independence! This is the only way for it to have a political weight in the decision making process INSIDE FPM THE PARTY!

There are lots of other ideas available that are quick to implement, feasible and offer great benefits...

I just wish that we stop saying "there is a problem" and start saying proposing clear and defined ways of action.

Thank you.

[Hrinkoz]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

I'll try to make a little feasible suggestion here, so maybe someone might catch it.

I said before that the only way to change things around is to create a political weight within FPM, in order to have a piece in the internal process of decision making.

I think that as a first step, the old activists should gather themselves, and create a group or an association of about a hundred or more members, whose mission is to keep the spirit alive within the Party.

The mission of such association is to press and lobby for IDEALS, to be as much respected and observed, within the political actions of the Party, both on the internal and on the external level.

Again, the mission is not to mingle in the political decision itself, or to impose it, but just to orient it, by pushing forward for IDEALS to be respected. I'm being very clear about this, because the moment this association mingles in political decisions, it becomes itself politicized. Which is something to avoid, since the real aim is to keep the spirit alive and try to implement it in public life.

This association might eventually mingle in the political decision of the Party in only rare occasions, where a clear necessity of high priority commands it, and within a clear general mood inside the association itself of a unanimity around such action. But this should only be a rare exception.

The Party is the adequate structure to deal with politics, and the association could help by being the adequate back up, that preserves its spirit and ideals.

Now the most important step:

This association should issue a high quality magazine where it can expose its ideals, its course of action, where it can point out at many issues, reveal corruption, highlight its activities, recruit, educate....

For a budget of 3000$ to 5000$ a month, this is feasible...Until it can finance itself by many independent ways.

But the most important thing for this association of old activists, is to show its support for FPM, while at the same time, prove its integrity and independence! This is the only way for it to have a political weight in the decision making process INSIDE FPM THE PARTY!

There are lots of other ideas available that are quick to implement, feasible and offer great benefits...

I just wish that we stop saying "there is a problem" and start saying proposing clear and defined ways of action.

Thank you.

Fully agree with you.
"Kudama el Tayyar" would be good