Open message to all fellow free activists!

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by Comrade Bassam

There's nothing such as "take over" in FPM.

I like it when people throw these dreamy lines devoid of any consistency.

Tell me, when Michel Aoun is gone, who is gonna steer the party ?

Who is gonna be the person talking to the press ?
Who is gonna be the person in charge of elections ?
Who is gonna be the person in charge of media ?
Who is gonna be the person in charge of financing ?
Who is gonna coordinate with everyone ?
Who is gonna lead the party ? (because as an educated person should know, no party in the entire universe was ever capable of going all the way without a captain, a person in charge, someone who takes decisions)

Even more importantly:

Who is gonna choose these people ?

[Comrade Bassam]

Originally Posted by Placebo

we should create a reformist Movement within FPM. only this can help us. and i think the Orange room is the best place to start it. Most of the good activists are here. I don't know about some of the administrators, bass enno mainly we can start something substantial.

We need to work on ourselves to be good reformist persons. Then all your wishes regarding the movement will come true subsequently.
Individuals are the key!

[Comrade Bassam]

Originally Posted by The Jade

I like it when people throw these dreamy lines devoid of any consistency.

Tell me, when Michel Aoun is gone, who is gonna steer the party ?

Who is gonna be the person talking to the press ?
Who is gonna be the person in charge of elections ?
Who is gonna be the person in charge of media ?
Who is gonna be the person in charge of financing ?
Who is gonna coordinate with everyone ?
Who is gonna lead the party ? (because as an educated person should know, no party in the entire universe was ever capable of going all the way without a captain, a person in charge, someone who takes decisions)

Even more importantly:

Who is gonna choose these people ?

It doesn't necessarily have to remain as one party...
Anyway, what you are tackling is not the essence. When we treat ourselves at the very basic levels to educate ourselves and make of ourselves the perfect examples of good citizenship, the issue of leadership would thus be just subsequent. The culture of the base is what matters...

[Comrade Bassam]

Originally Posted by Shuyu3i

btw this is the charter. Tell me 1 thing that FPM is now talking about in 2009.

In Principles
The FPM declares:

1. Its belief that the individual is intrinsically valuable and that people are born equal and die equal, having equal rights, freedom, and dignity, and being able to differ in opinions, orientations and beliefs.

2. Its commitment to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and to all pertinent international charters and conventions, whose values and principles will act as guidelines to the Party’s goals and programs.

3. Its intransigence in the belief that Lebanon is a sovereign, free and independent entity founded on a social pact sanctioned by the free will of its people.

4. Its assertion that Lebanon is a distinctive human experience by virtue of its pluralism, intellectual interaction and openness to civilizations, and due to its pioneering democratic experience in the Arab world.

5. Its abidance by the Lebanese Constitution as a charter of governance in Lebanon, in its practice, interpretation, and ratification.

6. Its adherence to the openness of Lebanon to and its interaction with its Arab surroundings and the world, in such a way as not to conflict with the national belonging and provided that the Lebanese will be a dimension of Lebanon in foreign countries and not a foreign dimension within Lebanon.

7. Its conviction that men and women are equal in rights and obligations, since women are fundamental partners in the building of the society and in the making of the political decision.

In the Goals
The FPM aspires to:

1. Guaranty the sovereignty of the Lebanese state and its independence and to safeguard its existence.

2. Build a nation of law based on equality, justice, social solidarity, equal opportunities and the upholding of a fair judicial system, since the latter is a true and impartial criterion for the consolidation of justice and democracy.

3. Establish democracy as a system of government and a way of life by guaranteeing the respect of freedoms and basic rights of the citizen.

4. Institute a culture of citizenship in the aim of achieving equality between the Lebanese; enact a discretionary civil personal status law; and separate politics from religion to facilitate the establishment of a secular state.

5. Protect the family because it is the nucleus in the building of a society and a nation.

6. Eliminate all legal and social distinctions between men and women and promote equality through practice on the basis of competence and aptitude.

7. Persevere in supporting the youth and promote their role in developing the society and in stimulating political life.

8. Enable the Lebanese Diaspora to exercise their political rights in Lebanon from their countries of expansion and strengthen the bond among them and between them and their motherland.

9. Disseminate a political culture that liberates the Lebanese from a mentality of tutelage and supplication and develop their sense of critique.

10. Adhere to the free economic system and personal initiative within the boundaries of human dignity and the welfare and principles of social justice.

11. Promote institutional functions on the basis of competence and the implementation of the principal of liability and accountability.

12. Protect and Preserve the environmental resources for a healthy environment is a natural and intrinsic human right and a part of human existence.

13. Make education available to all Lebanese, propagate Lebanese heritage, develop all sectors and encourage the mastering of skills, sciences and arts in such a way as to cater to the needs of the society and the requirements of the age.

14. Propagate the culture of peace, dialogue and democracy.

It has turned itself to one of the sectarian parties that we have in lebanon sorry to say.

I am FPM and I live those principles every moment. This is not a charter but simply a description of our spirits.

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by Comrade Bassam

Some even dared to do worse with me... Yet I had my ways to break the barriers and impose. Those threads will keep opening every other day for constructive discussion on how to re-engineer our spirits! Whenever anybody shuts you up (if you don't deserve it indeed), find your ways to break your barriers as well...

The problem is not with the will to keep on talking, it is with the rotten structure (or lack of structure) inside the FPM that blinds the whole leadership.

The problem is with the base that is supposed to be FPM's oxygen and is doing worse than the LF and AMAL.

The problem is that these threads will stay threads because people have been voicing their concerns since before 2005 and in more than 5 years not even didn't they get to their goal, the FPM has been regressing !

That's my wish!

And that's a problem isn't it ?

The matter isn't in your own hands, but in the finder of ONE guy....

The party is ours. GMA is doing a more than perfect job. This man is a living saint. The ball is in our court to make of ourselves (and thus of our movement) a successful one.

Again, as much as you might do, nothing will come out of it if Michel Aoun doesn't sign off on it.

And even more importantly, not a word will get to his ear if Michel Aoun doesn't decide to change his WHOLE entourage.
And even if it gets to his ear, he won't have time to do it single handedly, so he'll ask the help of his entourage.....see the vicious circle ?

Don't you have control over your own self? Chou hal khabriyyeh hay???
You have a lot of misconception in both Aoun and Aounism!

I know more about Aoun, Aounism and the FPM that you can ever imagine.

If I have control over my own self, me couple with thousands of people will have no control over the FPM as long as the decision is in one man's hand.

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by Comrade Bassam

I am FPM and I live those principles every moment. This is not a charter but simply a description of our spirits.

That's your definition and not the party's....
You can check on the website if you want ;)

You are an FPMer, you are NOT FPM, because if you were and you lived by those principles the whole party would not be so stinky

[Shuyu3i]

Originally Posted by Comrade Bassam

I am FPM and I live those principles every moment. This is not a charter but simply a description of our spirits.

This is the charter on l Tayyar.org
If FPM still followed this it would be the no 1 party in lebanon. But sorry to say it has gone off the boat. It has allied with the pro syrians who they once were attacking and changed its principles and stances dramatically.
The bad news is that if l Tayyar is now like this then we have no future.

[supersonichadi]

I think the thread has gone far away beyound what his maker has intended. We are speaking about fixing things, not making a coup or another party as someone has said.

[Comrade Bassam]

Originally Posted by The Jade

That's your definition and not the party's....
You can check on the website if you want ;)

You are an FPMer, you are NOT FPM, because if you were and you lived by those principles the whole party would not be so stinky

I am FPM w 2emmo w bayyo lal FPM because I carry the essence in me. Let FPM disappear today, me and every person who thinks like me can create FPM back from zero as if it never disappeared.

[Comrade Bassam]

Originally Posted by Shuyu3i

This is the charter on l Tayyar.org
If FPM still followed this it would be the no 1 party in lebanon. But sorry to say it has gone off the boat. It has allied with the pro syrians who they once were attacking and changed its principles and stances dramatically.
The bad news is that if l Tayyar is now like this then we have no future.

Deja-vu... Khlosna menna hal khabriyyeh... Anyway you "shuyu3i" guys are so much in love with rhetorics, it's in your blood so ma fi 3atab...