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We all know well who Rahmbo emanuel is and more important who his father Ben was, but most important is for you to know what the white house chief of staff is, he is by far not the right hand man, he is more of butler, or a personall assisstant if you wish, basically he organizes the presidents personal agenda, and please don't confuse personal agenda with political agenda.
one can see this many different ways, at first I was like you, very disappointed at this appointment, specially when I heard the racist remark Benjamin Emanuel made to some Israeli newspaper, but when I understood the actual position and the lack of it's importance, I dismissed it as paying the bill for AIPAC support for his election, nothing of fundemental importance really. what really pisses me of was appointing Hilary Hitler as Sec of state, she's the one you should be aware of, and I hope he keeps her on a leash outside the white house, because that bitch's bite is poisiness.
But hey I've been wrong many times before and I could be wrong again. :)

Your last sentence is the most accurate

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The White House Chief of Staff is the highest-ranking member of the Executive Office of the President of the United States and a senior aide to the President. Some individuals who have held the position, including Sherman Adams, have been dubbed "The Second-Most Powerful Man in Washington" due to the nature of the job. The chief of staff has been responsible for overseeing the actions of the White House staff, managing the president's schedule, and deciding who is allowed to meet with the president. Because of these duties, the Chief of Staff has at various times been dubbed "The Gatekeeper" and "The Co-President".

If it was simple nomination, and knowing how americans love Hollywood-style politics, it wouldn't be the first appointment made by the president, would it?
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Your last sentence is the most accurate

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The White House Chief of Staff is the highest-ranking member of the Executive Office of the President of the United States and a senior aide to the President. Some individuals who have held the position, including Sherman Adams, have been dubbed "The Second-Most Powerful Man in Washington" due to the nature of the job. The chief of staff has been responsible for overseeing the actions of the White House staff, managing the president's schedule, and deciding who is allowed to meet with the president. Because of these duties, the Chief of Staff has at various times been dubbed "The Gatekeeper" and "The Co-President".

If it was simple nomination, and knowing how americans love Hollywood-style politics, it wouldn't be the first appointment made by the president, would it?

Did you even read your own post before you copied it and pasted it :) the bolded items above describe exactly the dutie of the chief of staff which is nothin but a butler, again he's in charge of the staff, and don't confuse this staff with a the congress or political staff, white house staff, meaning all the cooks , the gardners , the house keepers, etc.... managing the president schedule, well I used "agenda" same thing, personall personal assisstant, again nothing Mr president this morning you have breakfast at 8:00am and a meeting with Mrs clinton at 9:00 etc etc... And deciding who is allowed to meet with the president, again nothing , sorry he is busy today you'de have to make an appointment, bla bla bla .
My last sentence about been wrong was about my prediction for Obama's stence, it wasn't about the fact and the duties of the chief of staff, that I can debate with you forever.
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It's as they say in French "poudre aux yeux"...

Obama and his administration will play the role of the "open" and "honest" actor, which doesn't take any sides, and wants to cooperate and negociate with everyone, and tries to understand the sufferings of all the oppressed.

But later on, we'll find out that that's just another strategy. The more intense the input for peace is from the Americans, the more the other side (Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, Chavez, Castro, North Korea, Russia, etc.) will be blamed and labeled as terrorists or supporters of terrorism!
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Did you even read your own post before you copied it and pasted it :) the bolded items above describe exactly the dutie of the chief of staff which is nothin but a butler, again he's in charge of the staff, and don't confuse this staff with a the congress or political staff, white house staff, meaning all the cooks , the gardners , the house keepers, etc.... managing the president schedule, well I used "agenda" same thing, personall personal assisstant, again nothing Mr president this morning you have breakfast at 8:00am and a meeting with Mrs clinton at 9:00 etc etc... And deciding who is allowed to meet with the president, again nothing , sorry he is busy today you'de have to make an appointment, bla bla bla .
My last sentence about been wrong was about my prediction for Obama's stence, it wasn't about the fact and the duties of the chief of staff, that I can debate with you forever.
No, I dont usually read what I type, ignorant b3eed 3annak, so please be patient with me.

The US Chief of Staff can be the # 2 person in the executive office, depending on whether the president has a hand-on/hands-off policy. He is the effective prime minister, has been historically documented to be like that, so whether you agree or not does not change a fact.

One step further.... miserable economy, change to foreign policy, and 2 wars that will necessitate a hands-off approach from Obama....eh voila, here's your IDF volunteer ready for action .
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Xdude,

I also want direct you to this article.

Why Rahm Emanuel Should Be Deemed the Most Influential Person of 2006 - Associated Content

Kinda explains how he influenced the entire democratic victory and is considerd the most influential person on Obama's team.

But hey, if you still think he's a butler, who uses MOutlook on Obama's behalf, then I have no more to say.
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No, I dont usually read what I type, ignorant b3eed 3annak, so please be patient with me.

The US Chief of Staff can be the # 2 person in the executive office, depending on whether the president has a hand-on/hands-off policy. He is the effective prime minister, has been historically documented to be like that, so whether you agree or not does not change a fact.

One step further.... miserable economy, change to foreign policy, and 2 wars that will necessitate a hands-off approach from Obama....eh voila, here's your IDF volunteer ready for action .
Ya habibi again read the job description of the chief of staff, with that been said it is an easy position to be influential to the president just like a chauffeur could be, but the job itself doesn't have much of an authority, basically no decision making what so ever. Now would Rahmbo be manupalitive to Obama? welll that remains to be seen yet, I'm hoping not . so far we haven't seen any fundemental statment one way or the other from Obama on the mideast except for that interview, which in my opinion sounded pretty good and I'm optimistic that Obama may keep rahmbo standing outside the door where he belongs. Again I could be wrong about that, but just about that :)
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Xdude,

I also want direct you to this article.

Why Rahm Emanuel Should Be Deemed the Most Influential Person of 2006 - Associated Content

Kinda explains how he influenced the entire democratic victory and is considerd the most influential person on Obama's team.

But hey, if you still think he's a butler, who uses MOutlook on Obama's behalf, then I have no more to say.
you are taking this argument out of context, typical of panic, this again has nothing to do with the job description of the "white house chief of staff" which my basic argument was about , thank you.
On a side note my optimism is fading a little after watching the incident of Davos 09, in which basically peres wiped his behind with the arab initative, looks like we're on for a long streak of wars again, thank you Israel
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