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So far, so good. He obviously destabilized Al-Qaeda.
To Combat Obama, Al-Qaeda Hurls Insults

Effort Hints at Group's Consternation


By Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, January 25, 2009; Page A01

Soon after the November election, al-Qaeda's No. 2 leader took stock of America's new president-elect and dismissed him with an insulting epithet. "A house Negro," Ayman al-Zawahiri said.

That was just a warm-up. In the weeks since, the terrorist group has unleashed a stream of verbal tirades against Barack Obama, each more venomous than the last. Obama has been called a "hypocrite," a "killer" of innocents, an "enemy of Muslims." He was even blamed for the Israeli military assault on Gaza, which began and ended before he took office.
"He kills your brothers and sisters in Gaza mercilessly and without affection," an al-Qaeda spokesman declared in a grainy Internet video this month.
The torrent of hateful words is part of what terrorism experts now believe is a deliberate, even desperate, propaganda campaign against a president who appears to have gotten under al-Qaeda's skin. The departure of George W. Bush deprived al-Qaeda of a polarizing American leader who reliably drove recruits and donations to the terrorist group.

With Obama, al-Qaeda faces an entirely new challenge, experts say: a U.S. president who campaigned to end the Iraq war and to close the military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and who polls show is well liked throughout the Muslim world.
Whether the pro-Obama sentiment will last remains to be seen. On Friday, the new administration signaled that it intends to continue at least one of Bush's controversial counterterrorism policies: allowing CIA missile strikes on alleged terrorist hideouts in Pakistan's autonomous tribal region.
But for now, the change in Washington appears to have rattled al-Qaeda's leaders, some of whom are scrambling to convince the faithful that Obama and Bush are essentially the same.
"They're highly uncertain about what they're getting in this new adversary," said Paul Pillar, a former CIA counterterrorism official who lectures on national security at Georgetown University. "For al-Qaeda, as a matter of image and tone, George W. Bush had been a near-perfect foil."
Al-Qaeda's rhetorical swipes at Obama date to the weeks before the election, when commentators on Web sites associated with the group debated which of the two major presidential candidates would be better for the jihadist movement. While opinions differed, a consensus view supported Republican Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) as the man most likely to continue Bush administration policies and, it was hoped, drive the United States more deeply into a prolonged guerrilla war.
Soon after the vote, the attacks turned personal -- and insulting. In his Nov. 16 video message, Zawahiri denounced Obama as "the direct opposite of honorable black Americans" such as Malcolm X. He then used the term "house Negro," implying that Obama is merely a servant carrying out the orders of powerful whites.
Since then, as Obama has begun moving to reverse controversial Bush administration policies, the verbal attacks have become sharper, more frequent and more clearly aimed at Muslim audiences.
On Jan. 6, Zawahiri issued a message calling for a global jihad by Muslims to counter Israel's military campaign in Gaza. He then sought to frame the Israeli assault as a "link in the chain of the crusade against Islam and Muslims," with then-President-elect Obama at the head of the chain.

"These raids are Obama's gift to you before he takes office," the Egyptian-born Zawahiri said in the message, addressed to "Muslim brothers and mujaheddin."

"This is Obama, whom the American machine of lies tried to portray as the rescuer who will change the policy of America," Zawahiri said, according to a translation provided by Site Intelligence Group, a private company that monitors jihadist communications.
Days before Obama's inauguration, al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden chimed in with a mocking prediction that the new president would founder under the weight of the military and financial burdens he would inherit. No matter what he tried to do, Obama would ultimately lose, bin Laden said on Jan. 14.
"If he withdraws from the war, it is military defeat," he said in an audiotaped message. "And if he continues it, he drowns in economic crisis. How can it be that [Bush] passed over to him two wars, not one war, and he is unable to continue them? We are on our path to open other fronts, with permission from Allah."



Friday, a new al-Qaeda salvo attempted to embarrass Obama, a day after the new president announced his plans for closing the prison at Guantanamo Bay. Appearing on the videotaped message were two men who enlisted in al-Qaeda after being freed from that detention center.
"By Allah, imprisonment only increased our persistence in our principles for which we went out, did jihad for and were imprisoned for," said Abu Sufyan al-Azdi al-Shahri, who described himself as a deputy commander for al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. The translation was also provided by the Site group.
Site founder Rita Katz said the messages show "just how much al-Qaeda is intimidated by Obama."
"The leadership of al-Qaeda is very concerned about the wide support that Obama has been receiving from Arab and Muslim countries," Katz said. "To combat this threat, al-Qaeda has embarked on a propaganda campaign against Obama, not only by linking him to the policies of the Bush administration, including the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, but also by accusing him of actions in which he had no part."
Other jihadist groups appear less threatened, or perhaps more accepting of an American commander who appears more open to peaceful accommodation, Katz said. A publication known as Al-Samoud, linked to the Taliban in Afghanistan, viewed Obama's election as a welcome sign that Americans are "very much tired from the bitter war" and do not wish to prolong a conflict "ignited by Bush's insanity and his satanic policy."
Regardless of how Obama is viewed now by the Muslim world -- savior, menace or something in between -- the opinions will almost certainly change in the coming months. For Muslim countries, as for the United States, perceptions based on rhetoric and image will soon collide with reality as the policies of the new administration take form, said Pillar, the former CIA official.
"Inevitably Obama will make certain decisions that will be unpopular and which the propagandists will quickly castigate," Pillar said. "I expect that the honeymoon will be just as fragile and short as with the American electorate."
Staff researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report.


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When Israel attacks Lebanon during his term with his full support, backing, justification, and defense, (as well as his country's tax dollars and weapons) come back and tell me the same thing.
Judge people on their actions not on what you think their actions are, give the man a chance, he was not president when Israel attacked Gaza, and the campaign was halted before he took office, so the man has no hand in what happened.
You know Mirka's quote about righteousness? the one that starts with "There is no limit...
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Well, don't epect him to go against israel and its actions or he will end up like Kenedy!!!
I think what the US administration is trying to do now is side the whole Arab world with its side, including syria, to then be able to disarm HA and get rid of Hamas then attack Iran... So basically, same goals with a different strategy using a less threatening launguage since they found out it did not work..
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errors committed by Obama during the interview...

-Interview given in PM to early evening, while the Middle East was sleeping, so Obama lost the benefit of surprise in his interview and it was already dissected by news media for the masses...

-Interview given to Al-Arabia rather than Al-Jazeera.. Al-Jazeera has more penetration to the masses, and Al-Jazeera reflects more the masses opinion in contrast to al-arabiya which is the official mouthpiece of KSA..

usually, the US president talks to kings and presidents of the arab worlds via secretary of state, ambassador, envoys, etc....

-Hisham Melhem (who ironically I think is Christian) didn't seem well knowledgeable in English and had hard time finding the right words when asking Obama questions...

-Interview to one media outlet rather than 3 or 4 reporters like Presidents usually do when they want to relay important messages to all the population...

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No. He used the word "sacrosanct." It was the first time I'd ever heard the word too, so don't feel bad.

In any case, actions speak louder than words. The Obama Administration plans to use diplomacy with Iran and I've read things about even supporting a Palestinian government with Hamas in it. Basically, Israel's grace period has ended.
By the way, who is George Mitchell, and what has been his past stance on the Palestine-Israel issue?
With Robert Gates, Hillary Clinton, but most IMPORTANT Rahm Emanuel as Chief of Staff, the grace period of Israel is far far far away from finished.

as for George Mitchell, half Irish, half lebanese working under Hillary Clinton who we knows well where she stands on the Palestine-Israel issues.

Remeber, Israel control the US, not vice versa
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In 2006 a State Department official by the name of Patrick Syring called the Arab American Institute headed by James Zogby and declared "The only good Arab is a dead Arab". Usually such open racism generally ends careers in the United States. But not if it targets Arabs. Having said that despite the powerful AIPAC influence in goverment and congress, I think their support has decreased among the main stream Jewish ordinary people. The majority of Jews in the United States who are generally liberal and supportive of a two-state solution, these Jews do not want the conflict to continue. These Jews will support Obama if Obama is willing to take the difficult road to tackle the ME conflict and have a just solution. Obama who successfully have used the media to support his agenda, I think he will do the same to attack AIPAC if it trys to stop him from getting a final outcome to the ME conflict. I just hope so he would have the balls to stand tall against these influential lobbying groups.
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No. He used the word "sacrosanct." It was the first time I'd ever heard the word too, so don't feel bad.

In any case, actions speak louder than words. The Obama Administration plans to use diplomacy with Iran and I've read things about even supporting a Palestinian government with Hamas in it. Basically, Israel's grace period has ended.
By the way, who is George Mitchell, and what has been his past stance on the Palestine-Israel issue?
Nasrallah: Regarding the Israeli issue, I see no difference between the Bush and Obama administrations.
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The first appointment in Obama's team was his right hand man and most trusted confident as his Chief of Staff. He is Rahm Emmanuel, the dude volunteered in the Israeli army during the gulf war. I'll leave up to your googling skills to know who he really is.

Actions speaks louder than words. I wish he had addressed and sweet-talked the jewish world bla bla bla, but appointed a pro-Palestinian as his chief of staff.
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The first appointment in Obama's team was his right hand man and most trusted confident as his Chief of Staff. He is Rahm Emmanuel, the dude volunteered in the Israeli army during the gulf war. I'll leave up to your googling skills to know who he really is.

Actions speaks louder than words. I wish he had addressed and sweet-talked the jewish world bla bla bla, but appointed a pro-Palestinian as his chief of staff.
We all know well who Rahmbo emanuel is and more important who his father Ben was, but most important is for you to know what the white house chief of staff is, he is by far not the right hand man, he is more of butler, or a personall assisstant if you wish, basically he organizes the presidents personal agenda, and please don't confuse personal agenda with political agenda.
one can see this many different ways, at first I was like you, very disappointed at this appointment, specially when I heard the racist remark Benjamin Emanuel made to some Israeli newspaper, but when I understood the actual position and the lack of it's importance, I dismissed it as paying the bill for AIPAC support for his election, nothing of fundemental importance really. what really pisses me of was appointing Hilary Hitler as Sec of state, she's the one you should be aware of, and I hope he keeps her on a leash outside the white house, because that bitch's bite is poisiness.
But hey I've been wrong many times before and I could be wrong again. :)
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obama will publicly and privately support israel
that is a given usa policy UNTIL THE OIL RUNS OUT AND THE REGION IS NOT STRATEGIC AGAIN.
what will happen is he will tell them privetaly
guys, u need to be flexible and need to give me something i can give to the palestinians and to the arabs...

how much can he push them, THAT IS THE QUESTION
but a major factor is , israel can not launch wars like before , and it can not count on usa launching wars on iran and others too..

THAT ALONE IS A HUGE STEP DOWN FOR THEM
THEIR LOSS IS DUE NOT BY OBAMA ACTIONS BUT HIS INACTIONS.

bottom line
israel DOES NOT WANT PEACE, THEY JUST WANT TOTAL SURRENDER.
to be fair to usa, as long as the jews are not convinced about genuine and fair peace, the usa will do little
just trying to manage the conflict.
as for clinton she understands the situation quiet well, ( she has a lot of arab and lebanese friends) but as usual usa politicians will towe the jewish line in general.
personal feelings does not dictate policies in usa ( UNLIKE LEBANON LOL AND THE ARAB WORLD).

FINALLY, she calling sousou before calling ms first is a bad sign for us.
i wonder where are these wassatiyye people and PRESIDENT LOVERS to denounce that huge slap and disrespect.
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