No Peace with Israel, No For Hezbollah Arms, Yes for the Naturalization

[Greg Davis]

Originally Posted by >Watani<

What does Hariri want?
No peace with Israel!
No Resistance by Hezbollah!
How will he liberate Mazereh Chebaa, Ghajar,...? How will he defend Lebanon?

Does he mean: YES for the Palestinians Naturalization?
I never heard Hariri saying: No for the naturalization!

Is he really a leader??? GMA said it well, if Syria and Israel will meet to discuss their problems, Lebanon should also participate because he is part of these problems.

I'll have some of what you're smoking watani!

What I understood from the monkey is that in matters of national interest, such decisions can only be made by cabinet, and not by him or the party he represents.

Not defending the guy, but, assume he did say ' we call for negotiations with Israel', wouldn't everyone here call him a traitor'.

Wasn't it just two days ago that a Hizbullah cheif na3im kassam an fpm ally announced hizbullahs intentions to liberate jerusalam, and that they would not enter into any negotiatiations with Israel.

[Red Phoenix]

i think the lebanese are very bad when it comes to semantics and wording their thoughts.

it's a lot better if we resolve all our arguments the good old usual way.

by shooting each other..

hehe, just kidding, but it's not that bad of a thought really, we are better with the bullet than with the letter, no doubt about that :)

to be honest, only one politician knows how to talk clearly with refinement, Abbas Hashem. Everyone else talks like laymen.

[Dalzi]

Why do we insist on listening to and quoting retards who don't know how to string a sentence? Sounds like it's not within Saad's 'personal intersts' to negotiate with Israel .

Now all his supporters would start cheering the patriotism and Arabism and Islamism of Saad who strongly refuses any negotiations with Israel. He also left no room for anyone to question his complete trust in the government and loyalty to it, to the point where if they ask him to jump off a cliff, he'd do so. And of course, GMA like Asad, is willing to negotiate with the enemy (to whom Saad is a friend). Wow how smart that man is!

What the intelligent supporters do not see (you can't blame them) is that Saad is KSA's puppet and KSA is Israel's slave. Him and his logic; a chick cracking out of a cracking egg.

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

I'll have some of what you're smoking watani!

What I understood from the monkey is that in matters of national interest, such decisions can only be made by cabinet, and not by him or the party he represents.

Not defending the guy, but, assume he did say ' we call for negotiations with Israel', wouldn't everyone here call him a traitor'.

Wasn't it just two days ago that a Hizbullah cheif na3im kassam an fpm ally announced hizbullahs intentions to liberate jerusalam, and that they would not enter into any negotiatiations with Israel.

Monkey? Isn't he your ally? Boy you're so faithful to each other lol. I can't wait to see the Sunnis dump the LF in the gutters.

When it comes to HA, negotiations with Israel start when Israel learns how to negotiate. In other words, never.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

Why do we insist on listening to and quoting retards who don't know how to string a sentence? Sounds like it's not within Saad's 'personal intersts' to negotiate with Israel .

Now all his supporters would start cheering the patriotism and Arabism and Islamism of Saad who strongly refuses any negotiations with Israel. He also left no room for anyone to question his complete trust in the government and loyalty to it, to the point where if they ask him to jump off a cliff, he'd do so. And of course, GMA like Asad, is willing to negotiate with the enemy (to whom Saad is friend). Wow how smart that man is!

What the intelligent supporters do not see (you can't blame them) is that Saad is KSA's puppet and KSA is Israel's slave. Him and his logic; a chick cracking out of a cracking egg.

Monkey? Isn't he your ally? Boy you're so faithful to each other lol. I can't wait to see the Sunnis dump the LF in the gutters.

When it comes to HA, negotiations with Israel start when Israel learns how to negotiate. In other words, never.

According to the Syrians they are excellent negotiators yet no one dares to criticize them or question their Arabism. Syria el momena3a, what a joke.

Anyway back to our topic, HA had previous indirect negotiations with Israel, how come when AJ proposed to do so with Shebaa farms everyone attacked him while on the other hand we have gma calling for direct negotitions and no one from HA accuse him of anything?

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Saladin

According to the Syrians they are excellent negotiators yet no one dares to criticize them or question their Arabism. Syria el momena3a, what a joke.

Anyway back to our topic, HA had previous indirect negotiations with Israel, how come when AJ proposed to do so with Shebaa farms everyone attacked him when on the other hand we have gma calling for direct negotitions and no one from HA accuse him of anything?

well i think it has something to do with the fact that HA and FPM trust and respect each other, with their differences. something rare on the lebanese scene.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

well i think it has something to do with the fact that HA and FPM trust and respect each other, with their differences. something rare on the lebanese scene.

You mean with their contradictions?

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Saladin

You mean with their contradictions?

they are not the same party u know.

but they got common grounds and most importantly they got trust.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Saladin

According to the Syrians they are excellent negotiators yet no one dares to criticize them or question their Arabism. Syria el momena3a, what a joke.

What's wrong with negotiations if they lead to justice? Is it not what Islam calls for before anything? Those sweet methods didn't work with us, doesn't mean they might not work with others.

What have the Arab leaders in KSA, Egypt and Jordan done? You are talking about Syria when it's one of the remaining Arab countries that have not acknowledged Israel! Do you people actually think or just talk without thinking? How can you even mention Syria when you are the puppets of the number one Israeli allies who are starving the Paletinians while Israelis tour their nations?

Anyway back to our topic, HA had previous indirect negotiations with Israel, how come when AJ proposed to do so with Shebaa farms everyone attacked him while on the other hand we have gma calling for direct negotitions and no one from HA accuse him of anything?

Is AJ supposed to refer to Amino? The Israeli appointed president? He'd be the best one doing negotiations, true. What negotiations over Shebaa farms are you on about? lol You didn't hear his Martyr in parliament struggling to answer Berri's question if he wanted Shebaa or not after the former declared Lebanese land completely free? Seems that like his uncle, he gives numerical values he can't understand. I would've liked to see Amino negotiating over the South his family gave to Israel. Turning a superhero all of a sudden is impressive indeed.

Speaking of Aoun, he was never an Israeli ally, so your aim at pointing a finger at him is laughable.

[MPFL]

Originally Posted by Saladin

for our own national interest, we in lebanon will not start any direct negotiations with israel.

does this look clearer?

but for our own national interest it is right to go to Pakistan for negotiations as part of a Saudi delegation!!

Ya saad Lebanon is not KSA...if he spends time in lebanon as much as he does in KSA than am sure he might realize what the lebanese really want!

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

What's wrong with negotiations if they lead to justice? Is it not what Islam calls for before anything? Those sweet methods didn't work with us, doesn't mean they might not work with others.

What have the Arab leaders in KSA, Egypt and Jordan done? You are talking about Syria when it's one of the remaining Arab country that have not acknowledged Israel! Do you people actually think or just talk without thinking? How can you even mention Syria when you are the puppets of the number one Israeli allies who are starving the Paletinians while Israelis tour their nations?

Is AJ supposed to refer to Amino? The Israeli appointed president? He'd be the best one doing negotiations, true. What negotiations over Shebaa farms are you on about? lol You didn't hear his Martyr in parliament struggling to answer Berri's question if he wanted Shebaa or not after the former declared Lebanese land completely free? Seems that like his uncle, he gives numerical values he can't understand. I would've liked to see Amino negotiating over the South his family gave to Israel. Turning a superhero all of a sudden is impressive indeed.

Speaking of Aoun, he was never an Israeli ally, so your aim at pointing a finger at him is laughable.

Why are you holding me liable for Egypt and Jordan? if it were to me I would topple both regimes, actually most of the arabic regimes and assign Yosuf el Qardawi 5alifah, Happy? Regarding KSA, until you provide proofs for your claims, your accusation are baseless. The reason i'm specifically talking about Syria is because you've bored us with your endless tape about Syrias patriotism and resistance when, at the same time, the Jolan cliff hasn't witnessed any action for more than 30 years, and they are negotiating with them even during July war. Wen we7dat el Masar wel maseer?

Regarding the indirect negotiations, I didnt mention AJ to try to make a Hero out of him, i'm just mentioning his Idea or proposal which you've already experienced. If it's ok to indirectly negotiate them to get the prisoners back, how come it's not when it comes to Shebaa Farms?