No Peace with Israel, No For Hezbollah Arms, Yes for the Naturalization

[Red Phoenix]

let's not talk about his sideline intentions for a sec.

what did he mean by saying "we in lebanon will not start any direct negotiations with israel for our own national interest(???)"

does he mean it's our own national interest to not go into direct negotiations (cuz then he said the government can take that decision), or does he mean we can't do those negotiations because they would be in our national interest ???

that boy makes no sense to me sometimes.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

let's not talk about his sideline intentions for a sec.

what did he mean by saying "we in lebanon will not start any direct negotiations with israel for our own national interest(???)"

does he mean it's our own national interest to not go into direct negotiations (cuz then he said the government can take that decision), or does he mean we can't do those negotiations because they would be in our national interest ???

that boy makes no sense to me sometimes.

for our own national interest, we in lebanon will not start any direct negotiations with israel.

does this look clearer?

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Saladin

for our own national interest, we in lebanon will not start any direct negotiations with israel.

does this look clearer?

ok thx, it's clearer now. u should help him with his future speeches.

but tell me, if this is what he means, how did he immediately follow it up with "only the government combined is the one that takes the decision"

so basically, he will be ok with the direct-negotiation move (which is not to our national interest according to him) if the government decides at some point to take it?

cuz i'm lost here, is he talking about this matter based on principles or pragmatism ?

[TripolySunni]

Based on Saying sumthing Patriotic before the Elections, Contradicting General Aoun and The Fact that his supporters Don't know anything about politics.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

ok thx, it's clearer now. u should help him with his future speeches.

but tell me, if this is what he means, how did he immediately follow it up with "only the government combined is the one that takes the decision"

so basically, he will be ok with the direct-negotiation move (which is not to our national interest according to him) if the government decides at some point to take it?

cuz i'm lost here, is he talking about this matter based on principles or pragmatism ?

He was addressing those who proposed it. What he basically means is that he and FM are against it, however if some feel the need for it, the decision whether to go through with it or not will be taken in the government combined.

[Abou Sandal]

Hariri just thought (was advised) that he got here a nice opportunity to score 2 points in 1 shot:

1-By trying to show that he indeed considers Israel as his fierce enemy,so we cannot accuse him anymore (that's what he thinks) of serving the Zionist agenda.

2-By trying to imply that GMA is asking for negotiations with Israel,while GMA actually said that no negotiations between Syria and Israel will succeed either on the expenses of Lebanon,or without Lebanon being part of them.

Hayda El Hariri Jeyeh Ya3mil Pappaziyet...Mish Aktar.

[loubnaniTO]

رفض رئيس "تيار المستقبل" اللبناني النائب سعد الحريري اليوم الثلاثاء إجراء أية مفاوضات بين لبنان وإسرائيل

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النائب حسين الحاج حسن لـ"أخبار المستقبل": وجهة نظرنا من المفاوضات المباشرة مع اسرائيل تختلف ووجهة نظر العماد عون في هذا الصدد".

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this tells me one thing: Saad Hariri is Syrian Iranian!

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Saladin

He was addressing those who proposed it. What he basically means is that he and FM are against it, however if some feel the need for it, the decision whether to go through with it or not will be taken in the government combined.

yes of course, it should go through the government if it's the ripe time to see if this is feasible. same goes for a lot of others big matters. no one is trying to bypass that.

but as i said earlier, gma 'didn't force' anything on him nor did he pass a gobal judgment on the lebanese, he just voiced his opinion quickly. i don't see why saad felt he had to reply with the 'government argument' point like that.

politicians daily voice many opinions of all calibers, amine said we should think about a federation but hariri didn't tell him to go through the government, instead he clapped for him.

arghh, somehow i don't think saad's intentions here where so innocent and straightforward as this. hehe

so i still stick by my original notion that he simply negatively reacted to something gma said without giving the matter much thought really. as usual might i add.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

yes of course, it should go through the government if it's the ripe time to see if this is feasible. same goes for a lot of others big matters. no one is trying to bypass that.

but as i said earlier, gma 'didn't force' anything on him nor did he pass a gobal judgment on the lebanese, he just voiced his opinion quickly. i don't see why saad felt he had to reply with the 'government argument' point like that.

politicians daily voice many opinions of all calibers, amine said we should think about a federation but hariri didn't tell him to go through the government, instead he clapped for him.

arghh, somehow i don't think saad's intentions here where so innocent and straightforward as this. hehe

so i still stick by my original notion that he simply negatively reacted to something gma said without giving the matter much thought really. as usual might i add.

Yes, and in the same manner, Saad was just voicing his opinion, and I think it was a reply to a question raised by a reporter in a press conference after visiting Sfeir.

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Saladin

Yes, and in the same manner, Saad was just voicing his opinion, and I think it was a reply to a question raised by a reporter.

so we all live happily ever after then ?

good i like that.

but, according to his own logic, did saad go through the government himself when he said that it's not in our best interest to go to direct negotiations ?

cuz u see dude, what i have issue with here is not what saad said, but what the heck he said, i have issues with the logic of his few sentences hehe

he said something that really doesn't fit all that well by itself.