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What does that have to do with all lebanese, the Lebanese elect the MPs, they do not elect the speaker, and the lebanese do not elect the MPs with an only objective in mind is the speaker that these MPs are going to elect. It is actually the last thing on the elector's mind.
Well it is a pity they don't think about it since electing Berri does not just mean electing a war criminal but also giving more leverage to the organization he heads and hence better positioning it to affect policies that affect the people ........ And I don't think AMAL movement is any better than [etc, etc, etc ........] ......
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you think so?
i don't think that it's as simple as you put it.

sanfour, you are treating Berri as one of the loyalists... Which he is not !!! Amal was in the heart of 7 ayyar, they are still on our side... Don't take anything for granted (elections wise), we have a big fight ahead.

PS: HA will never break with Amal, we share the same territory and have no interest in conflict bi manate2na...

kirmel a seat bi jezzine w bi baabda ra7 tdabb7o ba3dkon... we were laughing at Ja3Ja3 and Jumblatt... leik wein sorto...
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Eddie Abi lamah, Elie Karame and Sami Gemayel entering the hall of the parliament on June the 8th and chanting loudly "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella"
after you gave HA a Carte Blanche, you are blaming Murr in endorsing Berri?? it was only yesterday when your boss justified the use of weapons internally on Lebanese...and you are upset about Murr's position??...eh ..eh wait till June 8th!!
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after you gave HA a Carte Blanche, you are blaming Murr in endorsing Berri?? it was only yesterday when your boss justified the use of weapons internally on Lebanese...and you are upset about Murr's position??...eh ..eh wait till June 8th!!
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i need some election news about 14shbatt candidates
can you link me with richard.
him being the overall spokesperson for the shoubateyyen all over lebanon...

aw leik bale7a, i will contact al bouwabb be qouraytem, he knows better.
cheers.
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Default A scenario in which Berri is pushed out.... - 22nd May 2009

Here's my scenario for how Berri does not end up as Speaker after the elections:

The opposition ends up with a slight majority of 4-6 seats. As a condition for joining the government, the March 14 group insists on Saad Hariri as prime minister. Aoun refuses. Negotiations back and forth and attempts by the opposition to convince Mikati or Safadi to accept the post fail as they line up with Hariri. Things drag on with the Saniora caretaker government increasingly fractious and unable to manage the country’s affairs. The opposition then gives up on the unity government and tries to push Salim el Hoss as prime minister. He accepts but then President Suleiman refuses to proceed with the mandatory parliamentary consultations to name the prime minister citing concerns about violation of the national pact and preservation of unity. This turns up the pressure more leading to security breakdowns in Beirut, the Bekaa, and the north. Hezbollah and Amal try to push Aoun one last time to accept Hariri but the General refuses to budge. The threat of things spiralling out of control brings in the Arab League, and more decisively, the Emir of Qatar. After intense negotiations, the Qataris come up with a final compromise solution in which Mikati is prime minister, and Berri forgoes the parliament speaker post in favour of an opposition Shiite from outside Amal and HA. In this way, neither the Sunnis get their largest representative as prime minister nor the Shiites get theirs as speaker. This is considered a huge win for Aoun who gets rid of Hariri and Berri in one swoop (and might even get a C&R Shiite as speaker, although that one is a long shot!).

What do you think?
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Here's my scenario for how Berri does not end up as Speaker after the elections:

The opposition ends up with a slight majority of 4-6 seats. As a condition for joining the government, the March 14 group insists on Saad Hariri as prime minister. Aoun refuses. Negotiations back and forth and attempts by the opposition to convince Mikati or Safadi to accept the post fail as they line up with Hariri. Things drag on with the Saniora caretaker government increasingly fractious and unable to manage the country’s affairs. The opposition then gives up on the unity government and tries to push Salim el Hoss as prime minister. He accepts but then President Suleiman refuses to proceed with the mandatory parliamentary consultations to name the prime minister citing concerns about violation of the national pact and preservation of unity. This turns up the pressure more leading to security breakdowns in Beirut, the Bekaa, and the north. Hezbollah and Amal try to push Aoun one last time to accept Hariri but the General refuses to budge. The threat of things spiralling out of control brings in the Arab League, and more decisively, the Emir of Qatar. After intense negotiations, the Qataris come up with a final compromise solution in which Mikati is prime minister, and Berri forgoes the parliament speaker post in favour of an opposition Shiite from outside Amal and HA. In this way, neither the Sunnis get their largest representative as prime minister nor the Shiites get theirs as speaker. This is considered a huge win for Aoun who gets rid of Hariri and Berri in one swoop (and might even get a C&R Shiite as speaker, although that one is a long shot!).

What do you think?

OK so you get slyemen and hoss as the two people who don't represent anyone, who is the third tartour that doesn't represent his people for speaker?
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Eddie Abi lamah, Elie Karame and Sami Gemayel entering the hall of the parliament on June the 8th and chanting loudly "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella" "Alla w berri wel Dahi7e kella"
are you serious?????
this is the joke of the year or elections.
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Here's my scenario for how Berri does not end up as Speaker after the elections:

The opposition ends up with a slight majority of 4-6 seats. As a condition for joining the government, the March 14 group insists on Saad Hariri as prime minister. Aoun refuses. Negotiations back and forth and attempts by the opposition to convince Mikati or Safadi to accept the post fail as they line up with Hariri. Things drag on with the Saniora caretaker government increasingly fractious and unable to manage the country’s affairs. The opposition then gives up on the unity government and tries to push Salim el Hoss as prime minister. He accepts but then President Suleiman refuses to proceed with the mandatory parliamentary consultations to name the prime minister citing concerns about violation of the national pact and preservation of unity. This turns up the pressure more leading to security breakdowns in Beirut, the Bekaa, and the north. Hezbollah and Amal try to push Aoun one last time to accept Hariri but the General refuses to budge. The threat of things spiralling out of control brings in the Arab League, and more decisively, the Emir of Qatar. After intense negotiations, the Qataris come up with a final compromise solution in which Mikati is prime minister, and Berri forgoes the parliament speaker post in favour of an opposition Shiite from outside Amal and HA. In this way, neither the Sunnis get their largest representative as prime minister nor the Shiites get theirs as speaker. This is considered a huge win for Aoun who gets rid of Hariri and Berri in one swoop (and might even get a C&R Shiite as speaker, although that one is a long shot!).

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What would GMA be wearing when he refuses Hariri and how much do you charge per hour, less or more than Michel Hayek?
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What would GMA be wearing when he refuses Hariri and how much do you charge per hour, less or more than Michel Hayek?
Alas, my soothsaying talents cannot match your gift for sarcasm so it shall remain free.
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Here's my scenario for how Berri does not end up as Speaker after the elections:

The opposition ends up with a slight majority of 4-6 seats. As a condition for joining the government, the March 14 group insists on Saad Hariri as prime minister. Aoun refuses. Negotiations back and forth and attempts by the opposition to convince Mikati or Safadi to accept the post fail as they line up with Hariri. Things drag on with the Saniora caretaker government increasingly fractious and unable to manage the country’s affairs. The opposition then gives up on the unity government and tries to push Salim el Hoss as prime minister. He accepts but then President Suleiman refuses to proceed with the mandatory parliamentary consultations to name the prime minister citing concerns about violation of the national pact and preservation of unity. This turns up the pressure more leading to security breakdowns in Beirut, the Bekaa, and the north. Hezbollah and Amal try to push Aoun one last time to accept Hariri but the General refuses to budge. The threat of things spiralling out of control brings in the Arab League, and more decisively, the Emir of Qatar. After intense negotiations, the Qataris come up with a final compromise solution in which Mikati is prime minister, and Berri forgoes the parliament speaker post in favour of an opposition Shiite from outside Amal and HA. In this way, neither the Sunnis get their largest representative as prime minister nor the Shiites get theirs as speaker. This is considered a huge win for Aoun who gets rid of Hariri and Berri in one swoop (and might even get a C&R Shiite as speaker, although that one is a long shot!).

What do you think?
I think that the speaker and the PM would be new and never seen before in their new posts.
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