The new Left

[xrenegade]

chou i see this forum filled by leftists?
where are the FPM ya jame3a?
Ya X be careful in what is going on here, do not let those leftists attack the USA.

:shock: :shock: :shock: we are not here to take over ya man.

we are here to communicate. :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

I got an invitation here and i invited thh00 since he is a member in "al yasar il democary" and i am not. I will not speak for a movement, soon to be a party, which i am not part of.

We are always open to discussion when it is consructive but if you find that we are a threat, we will let this forum be a one sided one, though i think a lot of the members here think the same way we do.

:D :D :D :D :D

[X]

guichardin this forum is open to anyone, you are LF, others are Left, others SSNP, some just Lebanese, so i am proud to have all those people in here to debate with each others.

[Incognito]

Xrenegade,

I can understand why you won't support the one state solution, but what is the alternative? A two state solution cannot work, and expelling the Jews from Palestine isn't an option. We do not combat evil with evil. Their forces have committed many atrocities against the Palestinians and the Lebanese, but would committing those same atrocities against their civilians make us any better?

There are children who were born into Palestine and know no other home. Instead of expelling Israel, we should absorb them by insisting on a one state. Therefore the Palestinians can reclaim their homes, the Jews can practice their faith, and the Israeli children who were born on the Holy Land can still live there. Isn't this more preferable to war and destruction?

th00,

I am impressed with what you have to say, does your organisation have a website?

guichardin,

This thread was addressed to leftists, what do you expect? Rightists?

[X]

thh00 I heard that there is a plan of creating a new party named “yesar eldimokraty”
So what is your plans as a short term? And what is your plan as a long term?

[Echo]

Originally Posted by guichardin

chou i see this forum filled by leftists?
where are the FPM ya jame3a?
Ya X be careful in what is going on here, do not let those leftists attack the USA.

Sincerely

we r b khanda2 wahad tayyar w yessar
ma3an na7wa elta7rir
ma3an dod eltaefiye

[Sayyan Benghazi]

Tayyar is working on liberation and not an taefiye, if the yassar is working for the same cause as ours then we are allies if not then we are not allies and not enemies.
we arre in the Liberation khanda2 and wvery one in that khanda2 is our brother, let it be leftists and rightists

[thh00]

Approved by X

X, Incognito, and others
first, if you don't mind I would like to refer you to some articles regarding "7arakat Al-Yassar Al-Dimocrati" Or Yad as we call it. Since yad has no website yet, you can go to beirutletter.com, click on manaber, scroll down to Yasar Dimocrati. You will find there the proposed wasiqa, the proposed nizam dakhli as well as some bayanat issued by Yad. For those who cannot read arabic, I will refer to you to the websites of other groups that are merging in Yad. Check the websites of No Frontiers http://www.geocities.com/no_frontierz/ and Communist Students www.communist-students.tk/

[Sayyan Benghazi]

To thh00

I hope you don’t take this as defending Israel but I have an opinion and I want to say it.

Israel defines itself as a country for jews, by this definition it is a racist country and a struggle against racism and racist ideologies is a duty on every humanitarian

Maybe Israel sees itself as a country for the Jewish people, but I’m more than sure that it never defined itself as a Jews county, and the biggest example are the Palestinians inside Israel which have more rights than the Palestinians under the control of Arafat.
If you really believe that a struggle against racism and racist ideologies is a duty then can you tell me why we don’t see you and others opposing the Ultra racist Islamic countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia?

Is Syrian army occupation army?

Again, the answer cannot be yes or no. The Syrian army presence in Lebanon is not the main problem.

Ok to you it is a problem but not the main one, but don’t tell me you can’t decide if you regard the Syrian army as an occupier or as the defender of Lebanon. Everyone has an answer to this question now it you don’t want to answer that’s ok but don’t go in circles.

The Palestinian cause is a very important one from a humanistic point of view first as well as from a Lebanese point of view since what happens in a neighbouring country cannot but affect us. I don't know what the Lebanese cause means

The Lebanese cause is first liberating Lebanon, second, attaining national reconciliation, third, getting all parties to sit on a round table and reach the Lebanon that respects all sects minorities and majorities, a Lebanon built on the values of humanity and civil rights.
Secular or not secular, federal or no-federal these issues will be reached after reconciliation when all parties sit together and discuss all the ideas on the table. I hope that in the near future we will be standing together calling for liberation.

[xrenegade]

i will not wait for thh's reply for i know what he will reply about some issues.

First of all ya sayyan,

palestinians of 48 do not have more priviliges than the ones under arafat. the ones under arafat's are being killed by the Israeli's and the ones of 48 are being discriminated by the isreali's. they are third degree citizens and not even 2nd.

as for iran and KSA, i dono if you have read about the ........... regimes of the arab countries and the neighborhood. as a matter of fact, we are against these regimes.

as for the last part about the lebanese cause, after reading this much of replies, if i get the chance i will kill 3 millions lebanese, no i will kill all the lebanese around the world and keep only the children. i will brainwash the children to be raised as the new lebanese (secular, less chauvinistic, less racists, less senstitive, less phobic, i.e. not the lebanese of now)

there are nice people around but there is a higher percentage of people who are just living in the past.

[liberte_toujours]

Israel defines itself as a country for jews, by this definition it is a racist country

And all the islamic countries, when they say in their constitution and in their name that they are islamic and they are for muslims, that would make them racist by that logic ur following...

It's not a criteria to being racist or not.