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Originally Posted by teshesh no one is wasting ur time... ur not obliged to read what i wrote.
if i'm not convinced by some move of FPM, and i say it openly.. this have nothing to do with needling and attacking!
i expect honest militants of any party to be a little bit more open: not all the population of this country should approve 3al3imyeni every single step, and every one have the right to be convinced by a political performance, or not convinced, and -i suppose- expose his judgment on this forum. if that "needles" you, stop reading other forumers posts, and read only ur ones.... u'll feel very satisfied then. | What needles me is people who bicker just for the sake of bickering, who do not see the good where it is, who actually see the bad everywhere. Instead of saying that FPM was the ONLY one to have voted on the reforms, you are bashing them for not having worked on them for the past 3 years.
Whether you are convinced or not doesn;t change the facts here, it doesn't need much analysis, there was a plan, it was voted on, who did vote and who did not is also a fact and known, and the outcome is known. What happened before during and after doesn;t matter to me at this point. | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by Youchka What needles me is people who bicker just for the sake of bickering, who do not see the good where it is, who actually see the bad everywhere. Instead of saying that FPM was the ONLY one to have voted on the reforms, you are bashing them for not having worked on them for the past 3 years.
Whether you are convinced or not doesn;t change the facts here, it doesn't need much analysis, there was a plan, it was voted on, who did vote and who did not is also a fact and known, and the outcome is known. What happened before during and after doesn;t matter to me at this point. | what needles you is not being 100% ok with what u think is good.. the most minor disapproval needles you. u want every one to prase the good moves. typical stubborn militant. i exposed my point about an event, and u respond by the "bazze2 w tchatti" w medri chou. although i'm very sure that secretly u approuve 100% what i did, but for u it is impossible to acccept the fact that u cannot have the appoval of 100% of the people 100% of the time.
and me being convinced or not doesn't change anything at all... fortunatly, because i'm against the majority of the reforms. | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by teshesh what needles you is not being 100% ok with what u think is good.. the most minor disapproval needles you. u want every one to prase the good moves. typical stubborn militant. i exposed my point about an event, and u respond by the "bazze2 w tchatti" w medri chou. although i'm very sure that secretly u approuve 100% what i did, but for u it is impossible to acccept the fact that u cannot have the appoval of 100% of the people 100% of the time.
and me being convinced or not doesn't change anything at all... fortunatly, because i'm against the majority of the reforms. | Thanks you for giving me a free psychological/psychiatric analysis. I did not know that I actually had a struggle inside me regarding that issue. Thanks for letting me know. Now that I know that I am actually 100% agreeing with you but could not actually realize it makes me feel so much good, thank god I found myself.
If you are against the majority of reforms, why are you even blaming FPM for not having pushed for them? You should then congratulate them no? Now I think you need a psychological analysis. | | | | | Registered Member
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1st October 2008
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Originally Posted by Aoun is rou2yaweh SISCO, WHY DIDNT THE PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT YOU THE SO CALLED 14MARCH WHO ARE THE MAJORITY DID NOT VOTE FOR THE REFORMS??!!
wou as usual you throw it on hezbollah, thats how they taught you to think.
At least our representatives talk and fight to the end to implement their talks unlike your representatives who hide behind:''If they win that means syria is back'' ''hezbollah wants to eat you'' ''bla bla bla'' and no real political program.
And I condemn hezbollah and amal for not voting but at least they dont claim they are the ******** ''14 shbat'' claim to be. | I am sorry but no one represent me and specially non 14 of mars !! But you as a leader follower can not understand this !!!!
I am not balming no one andI except nothing from 14 mars. However, i excpect from the opposition to fight for reforms not to be a political alliance against FM. PSP and LF.
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Originally Posted by Youchka Thanks you for giving me a free psychological/psychiatric analysis. I did not know that I actually had a struggle inside me regarding that issue. Thanks for letting me know. Now that I know that I am actually 100% agreeing with you but could not actually realize it makes me feel so much good, thank god I found myself.
If you are against the majority of reforms, why are you even blaming FPM for not having pushed for them? You should then congratulate them no? Now I think you need a psychological analysis. | ur welcome man.. that didn't take me any effort. it was very clear.
as for the blaming, please, re-read my posts. if u even smell any blame, let me know excatly where. so again, i was expressing an impression, an opinion, a point of view... i didn't reject, attack or blame. even if i was against an issue, it doesn't prevent me of seeing who didn't work for it, or who worked (none in this case), and who worked but not very seriously...
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2nd October 2008
Can someone plz give me the details of how this paper would have worked if it had been validated by 14marchers?
(I want a text not your explanation thx)
Coz I want to explain to 14marchers what their leaders refused so they understand who wants tezwir. | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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2nd October 2008
Tonight with Marcel Ghanem, Minister Ziad Baroud explained in detail the electoral paper. Too bad it was refused, it was the MAIN reform in my opinion, it would have forbidden the parties who are used to buying people, holding their bitaka, and doing things to pressure them, to do it.
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10th May 2009
"EU Ambassador to Lebanon Patrick Laurent said during a ceremony on Saturday on the occasion of Europe Day that the current electoral law did not meet international standards"-Tayyar.org.
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