New armed group vows to protect arabism through strength of arms

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by vicking

Since the start I havent heard the President or Minister of interior.. where are them ? what are they doing ?

Where is the state ? where is the Lebanese Army ?

The LA is the most important entity in our country and if they dont intervene soon to disband these clowns, then we will seriously start asking about the existence of the state.

If Lebanon becomes stateless, I am not ready to see X, Y or Z militia to take over the country.

If war is to happen again or militias to be created again without the state doing something then I say, let's impose PARTITION once for all.

Again, WHERE IS SLEIMAN ????????

if all is hopeless then getting free visas is a way better solution than getting partitions.

partitions fix nothing, on the contraire mon confrère that would trap us here with our problems.

[vicking]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

if all is hopeless then getting free visas is a way better solution than getting partitions.

partitions fix nothing, on the contraire mon confrère that would trap us here with our problems.

We will never - ever - ever - leave this country. We are here to stay 3000 more years even if it cost us 500 wars. We have always been ready to fight.

Now I dont need anyother stupid fight for some stupid arabic nationalism.. to be honest if Lebanon can't survive as it is<;; then we must divide the country.
Who is ready to afford the cost for another civil war for X, Y or Z reasons ?

Partition is still not official topic, but it will be

[freemind]

Is everyone missing the point?

This group is admitting to be responsible for the launching of the rockets from south Lebanon, shouldn't they be brought to justice or interrogated?

If true, they are the ones that launched the rockets, then what are they going for? a war with Israel? do we Lebanese need this?

This is the cost of permitting an armed milita in your state, you can't deny the right of carrying arms to any other party, let alone the latter fights Israel, then what on earth reasons would you have to disarm them? they are no different than Hizballa.

Hail your alliances, face the consequences.

Samir Geagea, although criminal and of dirty history, is the only one telling the truth as it is, sadly.

[Lebaneseforever]

What prooves that this new gangs exist? Does anyone has a solide evidence?

[hiptanaka]

nobody gave these jacka$$es the green light to go around setting fireworks in the south. disband the militia, arrest its leaders, and bring them to justice. nobody asked these people to preach arabism from our lands... let them go do it jordan.

this really needs to be taken care of. if Israel had responded with their infamous disproportionate retaliations these cowards would have ran away and lebanon gets shafted.

[joseph_lubnan]

HA supporters: You of all people should be proud of your brethren, and support this group and look for ways to coordinate with them. By criticizing them you are being two-faced and hypocritical.

[joseph_lubnan]

what is FPMers' position vis-a-vis this groups arms and resistance? how does that reconcile with your position regarding HA's arms and resistance?

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

HA supporters: You of all people should be proud of your brethren, and support this group and look for ways to coordinate with them. By criticizing them you are being two-faced and hypocritical.

How about we just stick to what we've been saying for years:No milicias whatsoever in Lebanon.Disarm them all.Starting from LF,PSP,FM,Palestinians,inside and outside the camps...ect...ect...and ending up with those clowns.

As for HA it's not a milicia,in the common perception that we want to dismantle.It's a resistance movement legitimized by self-defense principles,due to ongoing aggressions and threats,and further legalized by our successive governments in their "mission statements" and much more,in our constitution.

By ignoring and disrespecting our laws and constitution,and the will of the majority of the Lebanese citizen,i think that the so-called democrat that you claim to be,is being two faced and hypocritical.

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

How about we just stick to what we've been saying for years:No milicias whatsoever in Lebanon.Disarm them all.Starting from LF,PSP,FM,Palestinians,inside and outside the camps...ect...ect...and ending up with those clowns.

As for HA it's not a milicia,in the common perception that we want to dismantle.It's a resistance movement legitimized by self-defense principles,due to ongoing aggressions and threats,and further legalized by our successive governments in their "mission statements" and much more,in our constitution.

By ignoring and disrespecting our laws and constitution,and the will of the majority of the Lebanese citizen,i think that the so-called democrat that you claim to be,is being two faced and hypocritical.

These guys are a resistance as well. Why should HA be the only one labeled as a resistance and all other resistors labeled as militias and thugs. These guys say they want to defend the land! Besides HA didn't receive government endorsement immediately it operated for years as a "resistance" without it, give these guys time they will grow stronger and get endorsements from the government and everyone else as well.

Of course I am against all armed factions outside the army and the direct control of the central government, all, including HA.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

These guys are a resistance as well. Why should HA be the only one labeled as a resistance and all other resistors labeled as militias and thugs. These guys say they want to defend the land! Besides HA didn't receive government endorsement immediately it operated for years as a "resistance" without it, give these guys time they will grow stronger and get endorsements from the government and everyone else as well.

Of course I am against all armed factions outside the army and the direct control of the central government, all, including HA.

Good.Note taken.