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I wish to say to some opportunistic hardliners who are jumping on the morality issue, to feed their hatefull propaganda:

I'm sorry but the mistake she did is not a professional one,because it was not intended to be aired.

The problem is a moral and not a professional issue.

And this moral issue is the anchor's personal moral issue and not a public one.

NBN should not have kicked her out at the first place.

Besides,the punishion should be according to the fault.And in her case, this is becoming too much.

Because it's not fair to repudiate a young anchor who is just starting her professional life, just because you have a problem with one bad behavior she commited by mistake.

Even if you think that it is so bad.

As long as it does not affect her work and as long as she does not use the TV broadcasting to propagate that kind of morals
But that's what she did already, isn't it? You keep saying to judge her based on her actions and not by what she thinks... but aren't her actions at fault here?

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The international scandal was due to the fact that the international media took this incident and put it under the spotlight.

I am sure that whatever she will say, everyone will think that she did it intentionally so I wont argue here about that.

It is not unprofessional of her at all, this is not her mistake. The unprofessional one was the Sound engineer that put her on air when she was having a supposedly private conversation, what if she was telling her best friend about some intimate moment with her husband???

People talk all kinds of things in private and noone has the right to judge them on what they do or talk in private!!

So what kept her in her post was not wasta nor her professionalism, what kept her in her work was justice.
LOL!

So it's not her fault for what she said, but that of the sound engineer who didn't mute her?

Ridiculous. The fact is, whether by accident or intentional, it was aired live for everyone to hear and what was said was not professional nor moral. Why it was aired live should not be the focus here.
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The level of professionalism in Lebanese media is very low. Despite the fact that she made a gross mistake and should have been permanently fired because of it, I cannot blame NBN for re-instituting her. It happens everyday, and nobody blinks.

There should be a code of ethics governing the media. Until then, I can't see why anybody should feel bad about this.
We have a media that reflects our society. What more can we ask for? It's like taking a look in the mirror.
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LOL!

So it's not her fault for what she said, but that of the sound engineer who didn't mute her?

Ridiculous. The fact is, whether by accident or intentional, it was aired live for everyone to hear and what was said was not professional nor moral. Why it was aired live should not be the focus here.
It is truly ridiculous when you live in Lebanon, don't let anything surprise you. My point is very clear, this poor woman is being punished for stealing a bubble gum, while the bank robbers are roaming free in the country.
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The international scandal was due to the fact that the international media took this incident and put it under the spotlight.

I am sure that whatever she will say, everyone will think that she did it intentionally so I wont argue here about that.

It is not unprofessional of her at all, this is not her mistake. The unprofessional one was the Sound engineer that put her on air when she was having a supposedly private conversation, what if she was telling her best friend about some intimate moment with her husband???

People talk all kinds of things in private and noone has the right to judge them on what they do or talk in private!!

So what kept her in her post was not wasta nor her professionalism, what kept her in her work was justice.

Noway!!! so now she is the innocent one and the sound engineer in the guilty one

Well then in that case, we would have 2 un-employed people at NBN, the sound engineer and the journalist.

They should fire both of them.

I am sorry to desapoint you, but someone has to pay the price for that huge and unacceptable mistake.

Or better the NBN should be accounted on that, if you really feel that you want to protect the jobs of both NBN employees.

NBN should go to court and a decision in banning news from NBN for a certain period should be done.

U have to understand that Lebanon has become a very media and news oriented country and that all the political parties are using the TV channels to communicate and mobilise their troops in order to act. This is very dangerous and i think that a new law should be put in place banning such a behaviours.
The best thing that can be done, is to have TV channels that do not belong to political parties.

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It is truly ridiculous when you live in Lebanon, don't let anything surprise you. My point is very clear, this poor woman is being punished for stealing a bubble gum, while the bank robbers are roaming free in the country.
Would u accept a forumer to curse u here and stay unbanned? NBN reporter must be banned and to anyone who thinks differently, we must all say to him what nbn's reporter said to eido & fatfat on air.

That's being fair.
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Noway!!! so now she is the innocent one and the sound engineer in the guilty one

Well then in that case, we would have 2 un-employed people at NBN, the sound engineer and the journalist.

They should fire both of them.

I am sorry to desapoint you, but someone has to pay the price for that huge and unacceptable mistake.

Or better the NBN should be accounted on that, if you really feel that you want to protect the jobs of both NBN employees.

NBN should go to court and a decision in banning news from NBN for a certain period should be done.
I am happy that you are just skyboy and not a judge in our courts since you happen to pick on just this poor reporter while overlooking deliberately the worse intended mistakes done by other TV stations and reporters. I agree with prosecuting Sawsan, her sound engineer and NBN, but if everyone else is prosecuted as well. Ya amma the law is over everybody ya amma nobody, we are fed up from Sayf w Shette over one roof!

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U have to understand that Lebanon has become a very media and news oriented country and that all the political parties are using the TV channels to communicate and mobilise their troops in order to act. This is very dangerous and i think that a new law should be put in place banning such a behaviours.
The best thing that can be done, is to have TV channels that do not belong to political parties.

Cheers
I understand Lebanese media a lot more than this also, and this is why I supported giving Sawsan back her job.

As for the best thing that can be done I agree with you, and this should be the job of the impotent government we have to set up a modern media law and make sure it is applied.
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It is truly ridiculous when you live in Lebanon, don't let anything surprise you. My point is very clear, this poor woman is being punished for stealing a bubble gum, while the bank robbers are roaming free in the country.
Sorry Dude to let you know that your comment is

We are trying to debate here if this lady should come back to work and if NBN took the right decision to bring her back.

This is very dangerous for the Media, as no boundery are being placed, and no rules are being followed.

The chaotic behaviour of the Media and news channels is very dangerous and can increase the crisis that exists in our country.

Sorry to tell you, that i think that we are not mature enough in this country in order to have such a chaotic TV channels that are all politically oriented. People do not think and analyse anymore, and have become very impulsive when it comes to news or interviews or speaches that are broadcasted on TV.
The Lebanese have become very easly manipulated by those politically oriented TV channels and our dear leaders and political parties knows that and are using this tool to the maximum in order to use their propaganda messages.

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Noway!!! so now she is the innocent one and the sound engineer in the guilty one

Well then in that case, we would have 2 un-employed people at NBN, the sound engineer and the journalist.

They should fire both of them.

I am sorry to desapoint you, but someone has to pay the price for that huge and unacceptable mistake.

Or better the NBN should be accounted on that, if you really feel that you want to protect the jobs of both NBN employees.

NBN should go to court and a decision in banning news from NBN for a certain period should be done.
I think that's uncalled for. It would be a precedent for censoring media for political reasons, which is worse than a few idiots every now and then saying outrageous things on air. No, it's better to make NBN pay by boycotting the channel and its sponsors. Or publicly discrediting NBN for bias in their reporting, given that their employees' bigotry is approved and encouraged by the owners of the channel. But there should be no legal repercussions because even bigots ought to have freedom of speech.

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The best thing that can be done, is to have TV channels that do not belong to political parties.
That I agree with. There's no way to forbid that by law, but the next best thing is to demand absolute transparency from political parties and elected officials. At minimum, all their finances should be public knowledge.
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Would u accept a forumer to curse u here and stay unbanned? NBN reporter must be banned and to anyone who thinks differently, we must all say to him what nbn's reporter said to eido & fatfat on air.

That's being fair.
Selective banning was never fair. Go check what poisons are being spread on LBC and then come and talk about fair!
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