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This just adds another nail to the coffin of Professional Journalism in Lebanon! not only we have weak and unprofessional journalists who don't know how to ask a question, what to ask, and when to ask it, we have TV stations who allow such unprofessional journalists to go back to work... an apology doesn't erase what she said... especially that what she said was not a slip of a tongue, it was a deliberate stupid unprofessional comment. A comment that not even an average person in the street should say.. 3ayb!
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I wish to say to some opportunistic hardliners who are jumping on the morality issue, to feed their hatefull propaganda:

I'm sorry but the mistake she did is not a professional one,because it was not intended to be aired.

The problem is a moral and not a professional issue.

And this moral issue is the anchor's personal moral issue and not a public one.

NBN should not have kicked her out at the first place.

Besides,the punishion should be according to the fault.And in her case, this is becoming too much.

Because it's not fair to repudiate a young anchor who is just starting her professional life, just because you have a problem with one bad behavior she commited by mistake.

Even if you think that it is so bad.

As long as it does not affect her work and as long as she does not use the TV broadcasting to propagate that kind of morals (like many we all know),she is free to think what she wants,and to be what she wants to be.

Even if you don't like it! That's her life!

She has the right to live and to work freely wherever she likes, without being annoyed, and harrassed like that.

If we add to that, that she expressed her public excuses,then everybody should now leave her alone,or else,he would be harrassing her,and saddisticly ruining her life.

As if she should pay, by herself, for all our sins and all the misery in this country.

What a hipocrisy! As if we were all angels living in heaven!

Everybody think again and tell me he never "thought" or "wished" one bad thing in his life.

(And i'm not saying she did, but supposing that,for the sake of argumentation)

If she is what you are accusing her of,you will not be better because:

You want to severely punish her and ruin her life,for her opinions!

She is not a criminal for god sake,so back off her now!

Enough is enough.!

And the worst thing is, that the most aggressive people,are the same ones who,everyday,wish that some kind of genocide occurs and wipes off the rest of their fellow citizens.

And they come here to talk about morality....yeah shut up....And go get a life.....

So this is why:

I wish to congratulate NBN for getting her job back ,and i hope that she will learn something out of this all , and because i know that she didn't mean or wish any harm to anyone,i wish her a long and succesfull carrier.
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Fatfat made the tea maskhara in marje3yoon.
I think his boss should repudiate him!
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I hereby apologise from the anchor and her TV station. I sincerely apologise.
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Originally Posted by Abou Sandal View Post
I wish to say to some opportunistic hardliners who are jumping on the morality issue, to feed their hatefull propaganda:

I'm sorry but the mistake she did is not a professional one,because it was not intended to be aired.

The problem is a moral and not a professional issue.

And this moral issue is the anchor's personal moral issue and not a public one.

NBN should not have kicked her out at the first place.

Besides,the punishion should be according to the fault.And in her case, this is becoming too much.

Because it's not fair to repudiate a young anchor who is just starting her professional life, just because you have a problem with one bad behavior she commited by mistake.

Even if you think that it is so bad.

As long as it does not affect her work and as long as she does not use the TV broadcasting to propagate that kind of morals (like many we all know),she is free to think what she wants,and to be what she wants to be.

Even if you don't like it! That's her life!

She has the right to live and to work freely wherever she likes, without being annoyed, and harrassed like that.

If we add to that, that she expressed her public excuses,then everybody should now leave her alone,or else,he would be harrassing her,and saddisticly ruining her life.

As if she should pay, by herself, for all our sins and all the misery in this country.

What a hipocrisy! As if we were all angels living in heaven!

Everybody think again and tell me he never "thought" or "wished" one bad thing in his life.

(And i'm not saying she did, but supposing that,for the sake of argumentation)

If she is what you are accusing her of,you will not be better because:

You want to severely punish her and ruin her life,for her opinions!

She is not a criminal for god sake,so back off her now!

Enough is enough.!

And the worst thing is, that the most aggressive people,are the same ones who,everyday,wish that some kind of genocide occurs and wipes off the rest of their fellow citizens.

And they come here to talk about morality....yeah shut up....And go get a life.....

So this is why:

I wish to congratulate NBN for getting her job back ,and i hope that she will learn something out of this all , and because i know that she didn't mean or wish any harm to anyone,i wish her a long and succesfull carrier.
I wonder if you would have said the same thing if an FTV reporter was caugh mocking the destruction of the murabba3 el amneh last summer live on air by mistake....
I believe FTV would have been targeted by another iranian made missile.
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I wonder if you would have said the same thing if an FTV reporter was caugh mocking the destruction of the murabba3 el amneh last summer live on air by mistake....
I believe FTV would have been targeted by another iranian made missile.
Do you think i don't know some wish much more than that everyday?

They don't even bother to say it publicly!

It's their problem not mine.

If they are racists or facists , they should go get professional help.

But to me to go start harrassing people and try to ruin their life, because of what they think, and not what they do, is out of question.

Take May Chidiac , for example:

Although she publicly (wich is not the case of Sawsan) shows and incites for hate,

I still wouldn't accept that one day, we all get to harrass her and repudiate her and ruin her (miserable) life.

What is this, a jungle, or something?

I just regretted the tears i had for her when she was targetted (wich does not mean i wish her death or any harm), because she didn't show a tear for the innocent civilians targetted during july war.

On the contrary, she ( and others) didn't hide her joy......

So some bad bad bad people could go to hell, i wouldn't care....

But that does not mean i wish any harm to them, nor that i would accept that anybody hurts them.
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Here's a novel idea: those who think that NBN was wrong to reinstate her, start boycotting the channel and its sponsors. Those who think there's nothing wrong with it, go on watching NBN as usual. It's not a question of this one person's morals or blunders, because there are a million others like her, but about the morals of her employer, and the best way to force change in behaviour is to make it hurt financially.
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Here's a novel idea: those who think that NBN was wrong to reinstate her, start boycotting the channel and its sponsors. Those who think there's nothing wrong with it, go on watching NBN as usual. It's not a question of this one person's morals or blunders, because there are a million others like her, but about the morals of her employer, and the best way to force change in behaviour is to make it hurt financially.
Lemon, who told u that either of these 2 sides (the ones with the reinstatement and the ones against it) actually watch NBN?
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Originally Posted by Abou Sandal View Post
I wish to say to some opportunistic hardliners who are jumping on the morality issue, to feed their hatefull propaganda:

I'm sorry but the mistake she did is not a professional one,because it was not intended to be aired.

The problem is a moral and not a professional issue.

And this moral issue is the anchor's personal moral issue and not a public one.

NBN should not have kicked her out at the first place.

Besides,the punishion should be according to the fault.And in her case, this is becoming too much.

Because it's not fair to repudiate a young anchor who is just starting her professional life, just because you have a problem with one bad behavior she commited by mistake.

Even if you think that it is so bad.

As long as it does not affect her work and as long as she does not use the TV broadcasting to propagate that kind of morals (like many we all know),she is free to think what she wants,and to be what she wants to be.

Even if you don't like it! That's her life!

She has the right to live and to work freely wherever she likes, without being annoyed, and harrassed like that.

If we add to that, that she expressed her public excuses,then everybody should now leave her alone,or else,he would be harrassing her,and saddisticly ruining her life.

As if she should pay, by herself, for all our sins and all the misery in this country.

What a hipocrisy! As if we were all angels living in heaven!

Everybody think again and tell me he never "thought" or "wished" one bad thing in his life.

(And i'm not saying she did, but supposing that,for the sake of argumentation)

If she is what you are accusing her of,you will not be better because:

You want to severely punish her and ruin her life,for her opinions!

She is not a criminal for god sake,so back off her now!

Enough is enough.!

And the worst thing is, that the most aggressive people,are the same ones who,everyday,wish that some kind of genocide occurs and wipes off the rest of their fellow citizens.

And they come here to talk about morality....yeah shut up....And go get a life.....

So this is why:

I wish to congratulate NBN for getting her job back ,and i hope that she will learn something out of this all , and because i know that she didn't mean or wish any harm to anyone,i wish her a long and succesfull carrier.

Man What's your problem?

Do u really think that it was a normal way of thinking, and that her reaction was the reaction of a person who has a normal and healthy way of thinking??

Unless you approved what she was saying...

People get fired for less sometimes in companies. Haven't u ever been in a large company and seen how people get fired for mistakes they do. Well this is the business life.
And sorry to tell you, but what she said was totaly seak in the head.
I wonder what would have been your reaction and the reaction of Hezb fan if Syria or Fateh AL Islam killed one of the Leaders of Hezb and u have heard on FTV or LBC the journalist saying: well lets hope next time they kill Hassan...

I bet you that we would have seen all those "Ashraf al shourafak" Hezb fans on the street burning tires and smashing cars windows and organising an attack on the TV station.

At least Fatfat reacted in a civilised way, and FM fans did not provoke any riots and choas in order to defend their honor and i don't know what...

Next time before u write, think a bit and put yourself in the shoes of the others and think what would u have done.

Cheers
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I don't think there's any other country in the world where a reporter who makes such a 'mistake' would ever be reinstated. No matter how personal the mistake is, this cannot be excused. And I don't care what political party she is with, how many people agree with her, and how many times she apologized. I can't believe people on this forum are twisting in all possible directions to try to find a way to justify what she said and make it seem like an innocent mistake, not of her even but of the sound engineer, and make it seem like the only decent thing to do for this poor woman's career is to give her back her job... People, she is a REPORTER, she has a public responsibility as a source of information for the masses, so how the hell can we accept such a person in such a position saying those disgusting comments MINUTES after all those people lost their lives???? Her getting reinstated is a statement, a statement that such things are considered normal in Lebanon, it's a regular part of life, that public figures and institutions like the media have no sense whatsoever of the public responsibility they have.

By the way, I think the comments about Fatfat serving tea to the Israelis really hit a nail on the head. How extremely relevant to this case. Chapeau!

And I almost hope that FTV or LBC will have an anchor(wo)man who soon makes similar comments (hopefully not in the context of another killing) so that we can see how the morality brigade will react then. I think skyboy's prediction of what would happen would be pretty accurate.
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