National Defence Strategy as proposed by GMA

[Arze]

I read today that Geagea is preparing a Defense Strategy and planning to submitted during the next Meeting in Baabda..
He's trying to compete with GMA.

[Bejin]

Originally Posted by Arze

I read today that Geagea is preparing a Defense Strategy and planning to submitted during the next Meeting in Baabda..
He's trying to compete with GMA.

he will propose to kill the HA militiamen in their beds like he did for the Army soldiers.

[sanfour]

Originally Posted by Arze

I read today that Geagea is preparing a Defense Strategy and planning to submitted during the next Meeting in Baabda..
He's trying to compete with GMA.

he will submit his study, making sure that it will be refused by Hezbollah,
then he will use Hezbollah's response for political gain
in the christian street.since the talks in the dialog meetings
are not supposed to be published in the media,
i suggest to completely ignore it as if it didn't happen and let him talk
to himself in the media.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Arze

I read today that Geagea is preparing a Defense Strategy and planning to submitted during the next Meeting in Baabda..
He's trying to compete with GMA.

Eh smallah "defence expert" . He's working on another proposal for another PhD.

[Abou Samra]

Originally Posted by sanfour

yes, it does. everyone wants to call Lebanon "switzerland of the East" but
they don't even know anything about the Swiss military strategy.

Switzerland army doesn't really have a strategy and is in my point of view the worst army in the world. They give guns to everybody but the point is that in case of a conflict no one knows how tu use it and no one would use it and everybody will prefer to surrender or to flee the country.

In Lebanon the problem would be that everybody would use it...

The only armed group in Lebanon should be the army. Its soldiers could be trained to guerilla tactics (as it seems today to be the best way to defend Lebanon). Hezbollah should be integrated in the army and the decision of war or peace should belong to the lebanese, so to the parliement.

[barid]

Originally Posted by Abou Samra

Switzerland army doesn't really have a strategy and is in my point of view the worst army in the world. They give guns to everybody but the point is that in case of a conflict no one knows how tu use it and no one would use it and everybody will prefer to surrender or to flee the country.

In Lebanon the problem would be that everybody would use it...

The only armed group in Lebanon should be the army. Its soldiers could be trained to guerilla tactics (as it seems today to be the best way to defend Lebanon). Hezbollah should be integrated in the army and the decision of war or peace should belong to the lebanese, so to the parliement.

Yea sure. Most probably that was the reason why Hitler did not attack Switzerland during WWII.

[ecce homo]

About the swiss army read this: Military of Switzerland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But actually what the best parallel to GMAs "National resistance" is this: Swedish Home Guard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Swedish Home Guard


The Swedish Home Guard (Swedish: Hemvärnet) is a part of the Swedish Armed Forces. The Home Guard consists of local defence units under the leadership of the armed forces, as well as 23 national auxiliary defence organizations. The Home Guard could be regarded as the equivalent of a fully government controlled and sponsored version of the American State Defense Forces under the command of local Army regiments.

History

The establishment of the Home Guard was passed into law by the Riksdag on May 29, 1940, after the beginning of World War II, but units had already been formed by the military before this however. Home Guard units were groups of usually eight to 15 men that were to serve as defense units in case of war, located in towns and in both private and state-owned factories, throughout all of Sweden. Members of these small units usually consisted of former professional military men who were equipped with rifles, machine guns, ammunition, medicine, uniforms, and had the option of buying additional materials such as skis, sweaters and marching boots. An additional group, called the Lotta corps (Women's Voluntary Defense Service), helped with additional tasks that the Home Unit was unable to perform themselves. The Lotta corps helped provide the home unit with additional items such as socks, scarves and gloves as well as performing all administrative work that the unit could not afford to do themselves. In case of war, and in case the Home Guard was unable to utilize local hospitals, the Swedish Red Cross was prepared to set up first aid stations for its use.

Current organisation

The Home Guard is organised in battalions, covering parts of a county. These battalions are then organised into companies, usually one for every municipality. The main task of the battalions is to guard vital military and civilian installations throughout the country. Also attached to every battalion is at least one "Rapid Response Platoon" (Insatspluton). These platoons are usually motorized and is ready to be mobilized more often than other Home Guard units. Rapid Response Platoons have more combat tasks compared to the rest of the Home Guard, including escort duties.

As of 2006, the Home Guard consists of 37,000 soldiers (down from 42,000 in 2001) organized into 66 battalions (down from 69 in 2001) of 300-700 personnel. In 2001 there also existed 122 Rapid Response Platoons and 27 Rapid Response Company Commands (Insatskompaniledning).

Method of operation

The Home Guard units are trained to be local combat units (primarily infantry but also signal troops). Although current doctrine states that Home Guard units can act anywhere within the country, local knowledge is one of the strengths of the organization. Training focuses on guard duties and weapons proficiency. Units are expected to use civilian assets (hospitals, supermarkets etc.) as part of their logistics.

In peacetime the Home Guards main task is to help with search and rescue operations, and to provide assistance to civil society in cases of severe emergencies such as natural disasters and the like.

Training and equipment

Contractually a member of the Home Guard must train 20 hours per year (although the time requirement varies according to role). A prerequisite for joining the Home Guard is to have received at least 85 days of basic military training. The level of training varies widely, from basic military training to Ranger school and to non-infantry service training. Also, no consideration is taken as to how long ago the training took place.

Home Guard training is centered around ground combat, from classroom instruction to a day on the firing range or more applied training exercises. Training is usually carried out on evenings or weekends and is not mandatory, and thus has varied a turnout. The equipment issued to Home Guard units is generally regular Swedish Army issue with some old equipment not being replaced and newer equipment not issued. Only the Rapid Response Platoons are organically motorized.

The standard armaments are Ak 4 battle rifles with red dot sights and sometimes with x4 optical sights for squad sharpshooters - or more rarely with a M203 grenade launcher - FN MAG (Ksp 58) machine guns, Carl Gustav recoilless rifles (Grg m/48) and AT4 (Pskott m/86) light anti-tank weapons. Psg 90 sniper rifles are also issued to designated snipers and some personnel are issued with Glock 17 (Pistol 88) pistols. Other equipment include anti-tank mines and manually detonated anti-personnel landmines, explosives and signals equipment. Some first and second generation night vision equipment of Russian manufacture have been issued, but illumination flares are otherwise used. Signals equipment at platoon level include AN/PRC-25 (Ra145) and AN/PRC-77 (Ra146) backpack radios.

Dogs are also used as sensor systems, usually two for every platoon. The animals are issued and trained by one of the national auxiliary defence organizations.

Home Guard Cadets

The Home Guard Cadets (hemvärnsungdomar) is a youth section consisting of young girls and boys aged 15-20, typically recruited at age 15-16. The Cadets receive military training that includes base building, L-ABCDE first aid, CPR, communications, physical training, orienteering, defense studies, basic firearms training (with .22 long rifle up to age 16 and AK4 B with red dot sight from age 17) and from age 17 and up also patrolling and leadership training (group and platoon). At 18, a Cadet is allowed to undergo battle training. Despite this they are not officially called soldiers.

Although there is no rank system for Cadets, the training consists of 4 1-year-long blocks named Basic Course, Addition Course, Leadership Course Level 1 and Leadership Course Level 2 (Grundkurs, GK; Fortsättningskurs, FK; Ledarskapskurs 1, LK1; and Ledarskapskurs 2, LK2. LK1 and LK2 are sometimes called Practical Course, PK, and Instruktörskurs, IK which means Practical Course and Instructor Course). After 4 years as a Cadet, the 19-20 year old has received military training equivalent to 85 days of basic military training, plus basic commander training.

Typically, the Cadets train one day or evening every or every other week, with 2-5 weekends per year spent in the field. During training they wear the same type of uniform and equipment as the regular forces, although it may vary between the sections depending on local budget and resources. From 2008, a Cadet at least 18 years of age who has completed at least the 3 first blocks of training is welcome to take a course to repeat and improve learned skills in order to serve in the regular Home Guard at age 20. This is very valuable to many of them, since many of them wont be needed in the Army, Navy or Air Force but still are eager to serve their country.

Actually this is the fastest solution to Hizbollah structure and arms when it will merge with the army.

[sanfour]

Originally Posted by Abou Samra

Switzerland army doesn't really have a strategy and is in my point of view the worst army in the world. They give guns to everybody but the point is that in case of a conflict no one knows how tu use it and no one would use it and everybody will prefer to surrender or to flee the country.

i have to disagree with you. First, they don't give guns to everybody....
the recruits are given physical and psychological tests to check their
ability for service(either military,civilian protection or civil service).
boot camp is for 21 weeks, after the boot camp, recruits have to
serve in their area for 3 weeks every year until the age of 30.
those who get guns are those who are part of the military.
by the way,shooting practice for the recruits is obligatory until the age of 30.

on a side note, Switzerland is able to mobilize its population for
warfare ,in the case of attack, within 12 hours.

let me tell you a little story called Operation Tannenbaum :

During the Nazi invasion of France, the Luftwaffe violated Swiss
airspace over 200 times; the Swiss responded by shooting down
Luftwaffe aircraft. The Third Reich responded by sending in saboteurs
to destroy Swiss airfields but it was an unsuccessful endeavor.
Shortly thereafter, Hitler called the Swiss "the most despicable
and wretched people, mortal enemies of the new Germany" and
began immediate plans for the invasion of Switzerland,
known as Operation Tannenbaum.
Hitler abandoned Operation Tannenbaum after he realized that
an invasion of Switzerland was untenable, with 20% of the
civilian population mobilized to defend the country – including old men
and young boys, with Swiss women manning anti-aircraft
artillery (AAA) pieces and running the civil defense corps.
The example of the Winter War showed how a force
of trained riflemen could stop a much larger, better equipped army.
my friend, some of the best shooters in the world are Swiss.

[elador]

the way the feb14 politicians on the dialogue table behaved with regards to GMA's strategy I really urge and hope that GMA leave that stupid dialogue and not to participate anymore in any future meeting.

these are mentally sick people who dont deserve anyone talking sense with them. GMA was asked to propose a strategy to discuss and not to be imposed on everybody. is this the way they discuss it? in the media with may chidiac and abboud? GMA knows that the best defense strategy is to have a strong army but can we achieve this? can we buy 100s F16s and 1000s tanks and and... and...? of course we cant.

how nany times we heard Geagea saying "we are the real resistance" and hariri saying "we all want to be resistance", and Jumblat saying that the resistance weapons should not be with one sect only. GMA tried to give a solution to all these hypocrites telling them you also should be part of it, they dont want anymore? and it is not like some of them said that Lebanon will be Hanoi and "rah yeflat el mla22"? in his strategy GMA didnt say bring a truck full of weapons and distribute it in the villages. he clearly sait that the mouqawimin will be carefully selected. this has proven the best strategy for a country like Lebanon.

[Greg Davis]

Originally Posted by elador

the way the feb14 politicians on the dialogue table behaved with regards to GMA's strategy I really urge and hope that GMA leave that stupid dialogue and not to participate anymore in any future meeting.

these are mentally sick people who dont deserve anyone talking sense with them. GMA was asked to propose a strategy to discuss and not to be imposed on everybody. is this the way they discuss it? in the media with may chidiac and abboud? GMA knows that the best defense strategy is to have a strong army but can we achieve this? can we buy 100s F16s and 1000s tanks and and... and...? of course we cant.

how nany times we heard Geagea saying "we are the real resistance" and hariri saying "we all want to be resistance", and Jumblat saying that the resistance weapons should not be with one sect only. GMA tried to give a solution to all these hypocrites telling them you also should be part of it, they dont want anymore? and it is not like some of them said that Lebanon will be Hanoi and "rah yeflat el mla22"? in his strategy GMA didnt say bring a truck full of weapons and distribute it in the villages. he clearly sait that the mouqawimin will be carefully selected. this has proven the best strategy for a country like Lebanon.

Isnt a carefully selected group of mouquawimeen an army. does the lebanese army have a shortage of personell, to have to resort to civillians?
The Lebanese army needs equipment, municians, and rockets, not personnel. The army in its current form is balanced and calibrated to accomodate the country's sectarian configuration.
How do we maintain this balance through civilian resistance, without compromising the balance.
Who controls decisions of war and peace?
When we break it all down, and begin to organise a resistance, all we end up with, is an army.
Many countries have army reservists. Citizens who perform military training, but remain civillians living normal lives. In the event of war, they are recalled, and repatriated to the army, to perform their resistance services, under the army's command.

We all know how much the Iranians care about Lebanons Welfare. If they amongst others really want to support Lebanon as a nation, why dont they donate some fighter jets to the Lebanese Army. They have plenty, including the ones they confiscated from the iraqis in the nineties. Amrna la allah the Americas won't, what is stopping them.

Without uniting our armed forces, Lebanon will always remain divided