National Defence Strategy as proposed by GMA - Page 10 - The Orange Room

leb-wi-noss

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Originally Posted by ecce homo

Is GMAs national defence strategy on the right track?

U.S. report: Hezbollah fought Israel better than any Arab army

It only means, he was the best between the losers. Arab armies always lost against Israel. HA was able to hurt Israel, but that is not stopping Israel from destroying Lebanon every time.
While, the countries that are not following the Nasrallah strategy, like Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia... Are safe from Israeli aggression.
It's only HA and Hamas who are using strategies leading to destruction.

Souss

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Originally Posted by Diabolo_7

Souss

this becoming silly... It seems you are complaining for the sake of complaining...

In the US, there is something called Congress hearing, where they listen to testimonies from people that are knowledgeable in the matters being addressed by Congress.

In 2001, GMA testified in Congress, and so did Bill gates last year (on 2 completely different matters). Neither Michel Aoun nor Bill Gates hold any official positions within the US administration, but the Congress listened to them on certain specific issues.

So it is not odd to find experts in certain fields being asked about certain specific issues.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by vegojimbo

Many times do nations resort to experienced ex-army officers for counseling and aid about military operations, strategies. In fact, many of these officers are considered as military advisers and counselors which many armies around the world frequently seek their aid due to their many years of knowledge, combat experience and impressive leadership. the US army, the most powerful force in the planet, has hundreds of such military experts and counselors.

I really don't understand why ppl complain on the left and right. It's not as if the proposal is to be adopted for sure, it is to be discussed and can be approved or rejected. And it's presented by an ex-army commander.

Now, if a criminal warlord who battled the army and killed many of its officers and soldiers is going to present a national defense strategy for this very same army, then here we can come and criticize the move, simply bc this man is no army expert and was not part of the LA family, has no full knowledge of the structure and capabilities of this army, and actually fought the very same entity he's now intending to organize through such strategy.

Gentlemen,

Debating the execution/implementation of a National Defence Strategy is something. We in Lebanon have never had a national defense strategy; we are having a debate about the need to have one. That's what's scandalous.

leb-wi-noss

But it's not an argument about having or not having one. It's an argument about what kind of "Defense" strategy we need. A one to Liberate the whole Palestine. Or one to defend our nation by having a strong army to protect it, like every other nation on this planet.

Saladin

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Originally Posted by leb-wi-noss

U.S. report: Hezbollah fought Israel better than any Arab army

It only means, he was the best between the losers. Arab armies always lost against Israel. HA was able to hurt Israel, but that is not stopping Israel from destroying Lebanon every time.
While, the countries that are not following the Nasrallah strategy, like Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia... Are safe from Israeli aggression.
It's only HA and Hamas who are using strategies leading to destruction.

Except in 1973 when Egypt liberated its occupied lands.

Danny Z

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Originally Posted by leb-wi-noss

But it's not an argument about having or not having one. It's an argument about what kind of "Defense" strategy we need. A one to Liberate the whole Palestine. Or one to defend our nation by having a strong army to protect it, like every other nation on this planet.

Propose something or stop criticizing, you useless 14 feb people you only nag without proposing anything, for 15 years you nagged that you couldn't do anything because you were under occupation while FPM was working and after FPM showed you that they could do something you started stealing the achievements of others. Now this is what Aoun proposed, do you have an alternative or are you just nagging again?

Diabolo_7

I think Nayla Tueini should have researched the Swiss military example before she decided to run her mouth...

Swiss Army
If you were a Swiss man, you would be a soldier as well. Every able-bodied Swiss man must go to the army in Switzerland for 90 days (Rekrutenschule-Ecole de recrue) and then every 2 years until the age of 42, he must return for practice for 19 days. This allows the government to raise an army of 400,000 men, fully armed, within 24 hours, as every soldier has an assault gun in his house, complete with ammunition. But there is more to this than a picturesque democratic institution.

Many CEOs of big Swiss companies are officers in the Swiss army, and this is so common that when a normal soldier is promoted to such a position, the newspapers will mention the fact. If they have spent the long weeks necessary to reach the rank (900 days to become a Captain), it is not just for the love of guns.

Officers usually address each other by the familiar form tu or du and their old boy network spreads among the most powerful industries of the country, particularly in banking. Some factories are run by teams of managers who all belong to the same army Division. When the time of the biannual “rehearsal courses” comes, the CEO just exchanges his suit for assault dress and the troops follow. But times are changing. In the past, a successful career in a Swiss bank may have implied the need to be an high-ranking officer in the Swiss army.

However, over the past 15 years banks have complained that their managers were always out of the office, and the merits of advanced military training for managers is being increasingly called into question.

wikepedia
Shelters and fortifications

Swiss building codes require radiation and blast shelters to protect against bombing. There is a bed for 95% of Swiss residents in one of the many shelters. There are also hospitals and command centres in such shelters, aimed at keeping the country running in case of emergencies. Every family or rental agency has to pay a small replacement tax to support these shelters, or alternatively own a personal shelter in their place of residence.[9]

Moreover, tunnels and key bridges are built with tank traps. Tunnels are also primed with demolition charges to be used against invading forces. Permanent fortifications are established in the Alps, as bases from which to retake the fertile valleys after a potential invasion. They include underground air bases which are adjacent to normal runways; the aircraft, crew and supporting material are housed in the caverns. The concept of underground fortifications in the Alps stems from the so-called "Reduit" concept of the World War II. It was intended that if the Axis Powers were to invade Switzerland, they would have to do so at a huge price. The army would barricade itself in the mountains within the fortresses, which would be very difficult to take. However, a significant part of these fortifications have been dismantled between the 1980s and during the "Army 95" reformation. The most important fortifications are located at Saint-Maurice, Gotthard Pass area and Sargans. The fortification on the left side of the Rhône at Saint-Maurice is no longer used by the army since the beginning of the 1990s. The right side (Savatan) is nonetheless still in use.

The Swiss government thought that the aim of an invasion of Switzerland would be to control the economically important transport routes through the Swiss Alps, namely the Gotthard, the Simplon and Great St. Bernard passes, because Switzerland does not possess any significant natural resources. Those who actually served in the Swiss Army during the war never criticised this concept - even if it openly meant that the enemy could take the civilian population in the plains hostage.

Diabolo_7

There is a great article on Swiss armed forces and the challenges of the 21st century...

I think the Valentinos better read it before starting to throw left and right their neutrality theories, maybe they should begin by checking the legal obligations of neutrality.

J.Hanna

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Originally Posted by Danny Z

Propose something or stop criticizing, you useless 14 feb people you only nag without proposing anything, for 15 years you nagged that you couldn't do anything because you were under occupation while FPM was working and after FPM showed you that they could do something you started stealing the achievements of others. Now this is what Aoun proposed, do you have an alternative or are you just nagging again?

sure, how bout instead of destined to fail "Defense" strategy, we go straight for a comprehensive PEACE TREATY.

Israel:
-withdraw from shebba and all other villages
-respect Lebanon's sovereignty
-compensate Lebanese for their war crimes

Lebanon:
-Hezbollah's immediate disarmament; all weapons are handed over to the Lebanese Army
-Assuming there are some 500K Philistine refugees in Lebanon: KSA will take 100K, Iraq takes 75K, Algeria will take 25K, Libya will take 25K, Kuwait will take 25K, UAE will take 25K, Morocco will 25K, Yemen will take 25K, Oman will 25K, Europe will take 40K (with emphasis on Germany taking the most -just to make ackmedinajad happy

), Canada, US, South America will share 40K, 50K will go to the West Bank, and Lebanon will take 20K.

Israel gets full peace with all arabs minus Syria. Lebanon can finally breath and live without the threat of wars breaking out, and we can come back to our prime days as the Paris of the Midde East. Economic ties are opened between Beirut and TelAviv, we can begin trading and selling water to Israel, in return they can start legally selling Chivas Whiskey in Lebanon :)
Case closed.

Why does it seem so simple, especially since Israel has been asking for negotiations with Lebanon for a some while now...Are there any politicians in Lebanon with the balls to ask for negotiations with Israel on a peace plan?

Diya3nek ya Abu Arz? We need to bring you back.

Danny Z

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