Nahr al-Bared Camp: Two Years under Siege

[Sami.NJ]

A soluation for all refugees in Leabanon is a must. Its not good for anybody. Thare are only two soluations and we have to choose one asap. Someone has to man up and say it.

Either they stay in Lebanon or we help find a place for them to go to.

For once, can the Lebanese do something in their life or do we always have to wait for other to tells us what to do.

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by Sami.NJ

A soluation for all refugees in Leabanon is a must. Its not good for anybody. Thare are only two soluations and we have to choose one asap. Someone has to man up and say it.

Either they stay in Lebanon or we help find a place for them to go to.

For once, can the Lebanese do something in their life or do we always have to wait for other to tells us what to do.

The problem is that the majority of Sunnis want them to stay and the majority of Christians don't want them to stay, the war started because of that and the feelings after 35 years haven't changed.

[Mahmoum]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

The problem is that the majority of Sunnis want them to stay and the majority of Christians don't want them to stay, the war started because of that and the feelings after 35 years haven't changed.

Any evidence?

[opium]

This is a REFUGEE camp...and not an economical free zone....they should not be allowed to open other thn hosptials and schools and groceries inside the camp....

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by Mahmoum

Any evidence?

Hariri walking the steps of this father, who said that el tawtin 7asel so we should benefit from it and get more debt and then it will be erased.
Also George Bush saying that the countries harboring them will get compensated and Hariri not saying a word about it.
Netanyahu saying that the refugee problem be solved outside the border of jewish declared israel and Hariri not saying a word about it.
It is all consistent with the practises of Hariri stealing deputies that are not supposed to represent him just to gain more power. now he will get more deputies for free and doesn't have to fly illegally 100,000 people from all over the world

[Mahmoum]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

Hariri walking the steps of this father, who said that el tawtin 7asel so we should benefit from it and get more debt and then it will be erased.
Also George Bush saying that the countries harboring them will get compensated and Hariri not saying a word about it.
Netanyahu saying that the refugee problem be solved outside the border of jewish declared israel and Hariri not saying a word about it.
It is all consistent with the practises of Hariri stealing deputies that are not supposed to represent him just to gain more power. now he will get more deputies for free and doesn't have to fly illegally 100,000 people from all over the world

So true, but I don't agree on the conclusion that majority of Sunna wants tawten. I know that majority of Sunna voted for Harere, but this doesn't mean they are with any step SH will take.

IMO, we should really start "warche watanieh" to avoid eltawten. I agree with you, it is difficult to penetrate widely in the sunna street, but we should not consider this street as a supporter of the tawten.

Tawten is a national problem/threat, and should be always considered like that.

[opium]

Originally Posted by Mahmoum

I don't see the problem of sect/religion if we provide the Palestinians in Lebanon som of the human rights. They are in Lebanon and are not going back to Palestine tomorrow and keep their situation as it is today (bad level of life, etc.) will not help to avoid el tawten and giving them the means to imrpove their life level will not establish the tawten.

Get real Mahmun....do u think it is possbile for Lebanon to give the refugees their basic rights????
We r not talking about a couple of thousands people here.....Do u think it is fair to see them working and growing in Lebanon when half of my family and half of ur family left Lebanon because of economical problems.
YES they should get FULL rights but sorry we cannot afford them in Lebanon.This is an INTERNATIONAL problem and it is not only our problem if they are not getting a decent life.
All countries should solve this problem not only Lebanon........

[Sami.NJ]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

The problem is that the majority of Sunnis want them to stay and the majority of Christians don't want them to stay, the war started because of that and the feelings after 35 years haven't changed.

I know that the war started because of tawtin. But even if the cgristian don't want them, where are they going to go? who is willing to take them? Hvae we tried to ask who is willing to do that?

I want a million bucks. Its easy to want anything. the question is what can be done? or what are the Lebanese doing to get ANYTHING done?

[Sami.NJ]

Originally Posted by opium

Get real Mahmun....do u think it is possbile for Lebanon to give the refugees their basic rights????
We r not talking about a couple of thousands people here.....Do u think it is fair to see them working and growing in Lebanon when half of my family and half of ur family left Lebanon because of economical problems.
YES they should get FULL rights but sorry we cannot afford them in Lebanon.This is an INTERNATIONAL problem and it is not only our problem if they are not getting a decent life.
All countries should solve this problem not only Lebanon........

I agree with almost eveything you said, I just think it is a Lebanese problem, as long as they are on a Lebanese soil. I think having 500,000 people living in our counrty under these conditions is nothing to brag about and they are a bomb ready to explode. Not liking these refugees is one thing and finding a fair soulation is another thing.

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[Mahmoum]

Originally Posted by opium

Get real Mahmun....do u think it is possbile for Lebanon to give the refugees their basic rights????
We r not talking about a couple of thousands people here.....Do u think it is fair to see them working and growing in Lebanon when half of my family and half of ur family left Lebanon because of economical problems.
YES they should get FULL rights but sorry we cannot afford them in Lebanon.This is an INTERNATIONAL problem and it is not only our problem if they are not getting a decent life.
All countries should solve this problem not only Lebanon........

Palestinians are a real problem in Lebanon. No one can say the opposite.

GMA proposal (Golf countries replace elHnoud wil Sri lankieh with PAlestinians of Lebanon) should move forward.