Monuments in Nahr el Bared

[>Watani<]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

There are many Palestinians living today among Lebanese people and it's more comfortable than living in a camp.

You ignored the socio-economic issues advanced by the commenter.

Yeah comfortable on the economic side only ...
No I'm not ignoring this issue and it's very important. it's a reality!

[Salome]

Originally Posted by True Lebanese

The arab gulf countries employ and allow to reside in them well over 10 million pakistani, indian, philipino and other asians workers. I am sure only 500 000 of their "arab brethren" should not be a burden.

The Gulf countries have the money and lack of population density to take them and give them better lives than the misery and poverty that they currently live in. They are their arab brethren after all.

They never wanted Palestinians in their land, they dont like them that much, they just like to use them as always for another goal, like now to get the delicious Lebanon under their "parasol".

Originally Posted by ius

Isn't what Aoun is doing collective punishment? I am not denying Israel employs collective punishment against the Palestinians but I thought that the FPM was against that. Why should the thousands of children of the camp be living in deplorable conditions just because FPM wants to make a political point? Why isn't the FPM practicing what it preaches?

ah those poor children, you care about them suddenly when they are in a safe distance from Israel.

Why dont you send them some money or help smuggling them out to USA?

You will not come with humanitarian BS to cover your quite obvious plan of naturalization!!


Thanks God we have at least FPM who is speaking up against the forced tawteen on the Lebanese!!! It was not FPM who brought them in, who kept them in misery for decades, who is abusing them for political gains!! But I hope FPM is not standing alone in trying to prevent this disaster to happen!!

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

Quite an irrelevant comparison... the money for Nahr el Bared comes from international organizations.

Wrong, it is financed directly by KSA.

[LebanonUSA]

Originally Posted by True Lebanese

The arab gulf countries employ and allow to reside in them well over 10 million pakistani, indian, philipino and other asians workers. I am sure only 500 000 of their "arab brethren" should not be a burden.

The Gulf countries have the money and lack of population density to take them and give them better lives than the misery and poverty that they currently live in. They are their arab brethren after all.

Actually, the irony in all of this is, Saudi Arabia does not give visas to Palestinian refugees in Lebanon, not even a business visa. two sources = a relative who works in UNRWA and a Palestinian friend who got a job in Saudi Arabia, but was refused a working visa there, thus staying unemployed and still living in Lebanon.

[LebanonUSA]

Originally Posted by ius

I agree that FPM is not responsible for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. That is not the question. The question is whether it is justified to punish all the residents of the camp to make a political point?

The Palestinian teghoghists in Nahr El Bared should have thought about the consequences of allowing Al Qaeda teghoghists in their midsts and ******* with the Lebanese Army. They made a choice and they're paying the price. You don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Lebanon already paid a hefty price for accomodating the Arab Israeli refugees on its land for over 60 years.

[LebanonUSA]

Originally Posted by ius

Look Kappa, I am not covering anything. Is FPM and Aoun beyond questioning? He is making a political point by stopping a beneficial thing from happening to the people of the camp. It is collective punishment like Israel does. He is punishing the children of the camp for something they have not done. They were born Palestinian, that was all their crime. You criticize Israel when it does the same thing. Perhaps this case is different. Please explain how.

Yes it is different, the Israeli Jews kicked the Israeli Arabs out of their homes and dumped them in Lebanon. Lebanon did not kick them out of their homes because Lebanon is not their home, Israel is.

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by Abotareq93

I was just commenting on what you said.

Kindly comment within context.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by ius

Look Kappa, I am not covering anything. Is FPM and Aoun beyond questioning? He is making a political point by stopping a beneficial thing from happening to the people of the camp. It is collective punishment like Israel does. He is punishing the children of the camp for something they have not done. They were born Palestinian, that was all their crime. You criticize Israel when it does the same thing. Perhaps this case is different. Please explain how.

Dude, Aoun is not punishing anyone.

There's a historical city out there, and it's just a small part of the camp. The government can build the whole camp and save that small part of land. We're asking to save a historical city, not punishing the Palestinians.

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by >Watani<

Yeah comfortable on the economic side only ...
No I'm not ignoring this issue and it's very important. it's a reality!

And on the social side as well... those issues are as important as conserving sovereignty, if properly handled.

[johnnyFPM]

Originally Posted by ius

Isn't what Aoun is doing collective punishment? I am not denying Israel employs collective punishment against the Palestinians but I thought that the FPM was against that. Why should the thousands of children of the camp be living in deplorable conditions just because FPM wants to make a political point? Why isn't the FPM practicing what it preaches?

The people from Nahr el Bared camp are guilty of harboring Fath el Islam terrorists that butchered more than 100 brave Lebanese soldiers and committed more than 1 deadly explosions across the country. Personally, I think that Roman Ruins are more valuable to my country than those so called 'innocent' refugees.

There's no political point being made. We are practicing what we preach.

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by Salome

Wrong, it is financed directly by KSA.

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