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Few information for some people here from a palestinian who is against the naturalization:

1-no body left the nahr el bared camp to anywhere in the world outside lebanon not because they don't want but because they can't.
2- some of them go to other camps but they are leaving those camps slowly because those camps are already crowded and can't hold anyone more.
3- most of them are relocated to lebanese areas living between lebanese.

so for the daydreamers who think what they are doing works against naturalization, actually they are helping it.

keeping the camps also in these conditions will help naturalization. most of lebanese youngs leave lebanon after graduation because they don't find work and the palestinians who were immigrating in big numbers before from lebanon, when their conditions were better, find more and more difficulties in leaving lebanon to other countries. you know why? because they become more and more undereducated, underskilled and more dangerous because of this fascist policy. Most of palestinians today want to get out of lebanon to anywhere in the world, but because of this fascist policy this will become day by day much much harder for them. keep helping naturalization. you are doing great, even if you don't know.
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some of them didn't go to another camp, they went to syria and to Irak. When you're not welcoming them or not even leaving them a place to live. They will try to find somewhere else and They won't forget their cause.
I'm not against the roman ruins! They aren't cool only, they are our heritage!
We have here 2 goals. (3asfouren bi 7ajar wa7ad) that's my opinion
let me tell you that u are totally mistaken,, none went to Syria and Iraq,, the poor ones are installed in temporary houses near of inside the old camp,, and the rest they rented houses in Tripoly and neighborhood... so now they are living a better life,, they are between us instead of being inside the camps... and that will make the tawteen more easier
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let me tell you that u are totally mistaken,, none went to Syria and Iraq,, the poor ones are installed in temporary houses near of inside the old camp,, and the rest they rented houses in Tripoly and neighborhood... so now they are living a better life,, they are between us instead of being inside the camps... and that will make the tawteen more easier
Do you have a proof?
btw, I didn't say that all of them went to syria and Irak
and about the tawtin is making it easier, all the politicians admitted that the naturalization is a reality "7assil m7assil". What it needs just to be official!
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no wonder why many southern villages havent been rebuilt yet since 2006 and

the displaced ministry has been waiting for money for 30 years to rebuild the christian villages in Chouf, while

money was instantly pumped in from the gulf when the Nahr el Bared camp was destroyed.
Quite an irrelevant comparison... the money for Nahr el Bared comes from international organizations.
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Better naturalisation then Wilayat-al-Faqih
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Few information for some people here from a palestinian who is against the naturalization:

1-no body left the nahr el bared camp to anywhere in the world outside lebanon not because they don't want but because they can't.
2- some of them go to other camps but they are leaving those camps slowly because those camps are already crowded and can't hold anyone more.
3- most of them are relocated to lebanese areas living between lebanese.

so for the daydreamers who think what they are doing works against naturalization, actually they are helping it.

keeping the camps also in these conditions will help naturalization. most of lebanese youngs leave lebanon after graduation because they don't find work and the palestinians who were immigrating in big numbers before from lebanon, when their conditions were better, find more and more difficulties in leaving lebanon to other countries. you know why? because they become more and more undereducated, underskilled and more dangerous because of this fascist policy. Most of palestinians today want to get out of lebanon to anywhere in the world, but because of this fascist policy this will become day by day much much harder for them. keep helping naturalization. you are doing great, even if you don't know.
When you have your own camp, it's different from having a rented house. They will have more liberty to prepare plans of terrorism. It won't be comfortable to live between lebanese people. Anyway, I didn't admit that reconstructing the camp will help or not the naturalization but it will make it easier in progress. There is a difference between the two points.
We know very well that the naturalization is a reality and only 25% of the lebanese are against it seriously! allah ytawel bi 3emer GMA
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Quite an irrelevant comparison... the money for Nahr el Bared comes from international organizations.
Yes international organizations who are offering the Gulf money in an indirect way.
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When you have your own camp, it's different from having a rented house. They will have more liberty to prepare plans of terrorism. It won't be comfortable to live between lebanese people.
There are many Palestinians living today among Lebanese people and it's more comfortable than living in a camp.

You ignored the socio-economic issues advanced by the commenter.
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Yes international organizations who are offering the Gulf money in an indirect way.
What difference does it make to you who's funding international NGO's and how does it relate to the Lebanese Ministry of Displaced.
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What difference does it make to you who's funding international NGO's and how does it relate to the Lebanese Ministry of Displaced.
I was just commenting on what you said.
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