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What do you expect when this country has been ruled by a bunch of incompetent corrupt leaders since 1990?
What do you expect when the Lebanese reject change?
What do you expect when leaders don’t even remember or do not know about the Lebanese heritage?
What do you expect from those who consider themselves descendent from the Phoenician when they keep silent over a Phoenician city?
What do you expect from a bunch of journalists who consider themselves intellectual when attacking GMA but will not comment on this matter because it will cost them their salary?

Wait until the new PM Saad starts his policies of massive investments from the Gulf countries. The country might end up with major shopping malls and hotels built on a destroyed landscape with a lousy infrastructure. That's tourism for them...
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Hello? Why are you guys so surprised? Don't forget that Hariri is a Saudi citizen first and Lebanese citizen second. As a Saudi, it kills him to see that Lebanon has more history and culture than Saudi Arabia ever will, so it comes naturally to see them ruining anything that may make Lebanon even better than Saudia ever will be.
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Are you sure of this information ???? Does the Lebanese law prevent anyone from stealing, destroying, etc. any historical objects?
and who makes the laws?
dont u remember the cap sur ville law which was made for murr to be able to make those high buildings and then the law was cancelled after he got his license?
and what about the solidere laws?they took the shops of everybody who was just out of a war and penniless and can't afford to rebuild their shops....
also the tax laws of solidere where it is exempted from paying taxes for 25 yrs and this tax was renewed a couple of yrs ago but i cant remember for how many yrs!!!!!!!!
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Roman ruins put Nahr al Bared camp rebuild at risk

BEIRUT // The seemingly endless struggle by Lebanon’s political factions to form a national unity government appears to have spilt over the efforts to rebuild a Palestinian refugee camp destroyed in 2007, as a major political party has filed a lawsuit to halt reconstruction.

A lawsuit filed by the Free Patriotic Movement (FPM), led by the former general, Michel Aoun, demanded that the rebuilding of the Nahr al Bared camp be halted in order to protect Roman ruins that were discovered during the clean up of the 2007 siege, much to the anger of the camp’s 20,000 former residents who are still displaced since the fighting.

The three-month assault on Nahr al Bared in the country’s north saw the Lebanese Army raze the camp in order to root out Islamic militants from Fatah al Islam, an al Qa’eda-inspired group, resulting in the death of nearly 400 people.

Gen Aoun, a prominent Christian politician aligned with the Hizbollah-led opposition, has been embroiled in a series of bitter disputes with the alliance led by prime minister-designate Saad Hariri that won June’s parliamentary elections, leaving many Palestinians convinced that the lawsuit is merely part of a broader fight in which their homes have become collateral damage.

Upon the announcement that a Lebanese court had halted the reconstruction project last week, Palestinian factions took to the narrow streets of Lebanon’s 13 refugee camps to strongly protest against the action, which they claim puts broken pottery and Gen Aoun’s personal ambitions above their right to return to their homes after two years of living in deplorable conditions.

“The Lebanese politicians are insisting on making Nahr al Bared a field to battle over their differences,” said Ziad Hemo of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. “We Palestinians are just trying to stay away from this political game. We just want our camp back.”

Numerous Palestinian representatives directly accused Gen Aoun of filing the lawsuit to damage the credibility of Mr Hariri, who, like most of the Palestinian refugees, is a Sunni Muslim.

But even as they insist that the only motivation for Gen Aoun to pursue a lawsuit to keep tens of thousands of refugees homeless would be his political fight, they were at a loss to fully explain why he would support such a move.

“We were shocked to learn that the FPM lawsuit did not insist on only protecting the parts of the camp that might contain ruins, but that it demanded the entire reconstruction stop,” Mr Hemo said. “He wants to keep children homeless to protect some broken pottery? There are far more important Roman ruins all over Lebanon but no one cares about these, only the ones directly beneath our children’s feet.”

After the lawsuit succeeded last week, Khalil Mekawi of the Lebanese Palestinian Dialogue Committee held an urgent meeting with prime minister Fouad Siniora and warned the prime minister that this decision might cause outrage among Lebanon’s estimated 250,000 Palestinian camp residents that could spill out across the country, leading to, in his words, “chaos”.

Rather than respond to the substance of the claim that Gen Aoun was putting politics and broken pottery above the right of the Palestinians to return to their homes, May Akl, a spokeswoman for the FPM, in response accused Mr Mekawi of demanding that Lebanon discard the ruins or face a civil war.

“What about my right to have a home over the rights of some Roman ruins?” asked Abu Ahmed, a resident of the camp, who has been living with relatives in the neighbouring Bedaawi camp for two years. “Is Aoun saying he prefers a civil war over not protecting some bricks buried underground?”

Another Palestinian official said the ongoing burdens faced by the camp residents, including stringent security checks, harassment of civilians by the police and army and the imposition of a Lebanese army base in the centre of the camp itself, have already alienated residents from the Lebanese government. But this new development, in light of Lebanon’s poor record of protecting archaeological sites around the country in the past, have left them beyond furious.

“The case caused a total freeze of the whole reconstruction plan of the camp,” said Abdullah al Baraki, of the camp’s support committee. “We refuse to have our camp as a mailbox for the Lebanese politicians so they can deliver messages to each other. We are not undermining the value of the ruins discovered, but we are asking how valuable are these ruins? Knowing that many ruins in Lebanon are being neglected, why these ones now?”

“It’s not acceptable to humiliate each and every resident of the camp by the Lebanese army check points each time on the way in and on the way out of the camp,” Mr Baraki added. “We need a solid and honest answer from the Lebanese politicians. Who has the decision [to rebuild]? We are being trapped and confused between the reconstruction, ruins, and the siege.”

Roman ruins put Nahr al Bared camp rebuild at risk - The National Newspaper

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no wonder why many southern villages havent been rebuilt yet since 2006 and

the displaced ministry has been waiting for money for 30 years to rebuild the christian villages in Chouf, while

money was instantly pumped in from the gulf when the Nahr el Bared camp was destroyed.
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[size="4"]no wonder why many southern villages havent been rebuilt yet since 2006 and

the displaced ministry has been waiting for money for 30 years to rebuild the christian villages in Chouf, while

money was instantly pumped in from the gulf when the Nahr el Bared camp was destroyed.
The Roman ruins are just an excuse because of our frustration at what you just mentioned. There is a humanitarian issue at hand, and there is a political crisis; both creating a disaster.

If without being nationalized they come out to threaten of civil war... Makes you wonder what they'll do had they been... I don't know whether i could call those kinds arrogant swines or sectarian fools. Someone tell "Abu Ahmad" that the days when he was 3antar over us are long gone with no comeback.
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The arab gulf countries employ and allow to reside in them well over 10 million pakistani, indian, philipino and other asians workers. I am sure only 500 000 of their "arab brethren" should not be a burden.

The Gulf countries have the money and lack of population density to take them and give them better lives than the misery and poverty that they currently live in. They are their arab brethren after all.
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The arab gulf countries employ and allow to reside in them well over 10 million pakistani, indian, philipino and other asians workers. I am sure only 500 000 of their "arab brethren" should not be a burden.

The Gulf countries have the money and lack of population density to take them and give them better lives than the misery and poverty that they currently live in. They are their arab brethren after all.
doing that will in no way make lebanon in majority sunnites, why would Saudi Arabia pass the opportunity to control Lebanon and in the meantime have its ruler a Saudi, while their interests coincide directly with that of the US to remove the shiites from the region neighbouring Israel
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The arab gulf countries employ and allow to reside in them well over 10 million pakistani, indian, philipino and other asians workers. I am sure only 500 000 of their "arab brethren" should not be a burden.

The Gulf countries have the money and lack of population density to take them and give them better lives than the misery and poverty that they currently live in. They are their arab brethren after all.
They'll miss out on the opportunity to saadanize lebanon and later have dinner with zionists.
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Roman ruins put Nahr al Bared camp rebuild at risk

BEIRUT // The seemingly endless struggle by Lebanon’s political factions to form a national unity government appears to have spilt over the efforts to rebuild a Palestinian refugee camp destroyed in 2007, as a major political party has filed a lawsuit to halt reconstruction.
Isn't what Aoun is doing collective punishment? I am not denying Israel employs collective punishment against the Palestinians but I thought that the FPM was against that. Why should the thousands of children of the camp be living in deplorable conditions just because FPM wants to make a political point? Why isn't the FPM practicing what it preaches?
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Isn't what Aoun is doing collective punishment? I am not denying Israel employs collective punishment against the Palestinians but I thought that the FPM was against that. Why should the the thousands of children of the camp be living in deplorable conditions just because FPM wants to make a political point? Why isn't the FPM practicing what it preaches?
Are you supposed to be stirring here or giving zionist lectures on compassion? You got us confused.
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