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Arrow Militiamen from opposition camp attack civilians in Monot - 15th April 2008

Annahar reported the following today:

مجدلاني: عناصر من الخيم اعتدت على ساهرين في بيروت

سأل النائب عاطف مجدلاني "هل هناك هدف جديد للمربّع الامني الذي انشئ في وسط بيروت تحت ستار الاعتصام، عبر استخدامه قاعدة ميليشيوية تنطلق منها عناصر مسلحة لترهيب الاهالي في بيروت؟".
وتحدث في تصريح امس عن "حادث اعتداء تعرض له الساهرون في محيط وسط بيروت ليل (السبت) 12 – 13 نيسان، تدخلت خلاله العناصر المليشيوية التي استقدمت على وجه السرعة من الخيم على متن الدراجات النارية المعهودة، وتولت الاعتداء المنظّم بالسكاكين على الساهرين في المطعم، مما ادى الى سقوط عدد من الجرحى توزعوا على مستشفيات منطقة الاشرفية".
وقال: "الاخطر من حادث الاعتداء غير المبرر، ان الساهرين الذين تعرضوا للاعتداء حاولوا طلب الحماية من القوى الامنية الموجودة في المكان، فكان الجواب: "اننا لا نملك صلاحيات للتدخل، ولا نريد ان يصيبنا ما اصاب رفاقاً لنا بعد حوادث الاحد الاسود في الشياح".
وسأل: "هل يجب ان نفهم ان الامن بالتراضي بدأ يتمدد الى احياء العاصمة؟ وهل الخطة التي رسمها مفتعلو احداث الشياح نجحت، وتم اخضاع القوى الامنية، على المستوى النفسي والمعنوي، بحيث صارت عاجزة عن التدخل لحماية المواطنين من اعتداءات ميليشيات الامر الواقع؟".
وختم: "المواطن يعتمد على القوى الامنية لحمايته من اي اعتداء يتعرض له. وعندما تصبح هذه القوى عاجزة عن تأدية مهمتها هذه، فهذا يعني اننا امام كارثة وطنية.

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This was reported by L'Orient:

Majdalani : Les miliciens du sit-in ont attaqué au couteau les clients d’un restaurant

Le député du Courant du futur, Atef Majdalani, a fait état « d’une agression qui a ciblé des noctambules, la nuit du samedi 12 au dimanche 13, dans les environs du centre-ville ». « Des miliciens venus du sit-in (de l’opposition) ont attaqué les clients d’un restaurant avec des couteaux, causant des blessures à plusieurs personnes qui ont été soignées dans les hôpitaux d’Achrafieh », a-t-il Page Rankingécisé.
« Le pire est que les victimes ont tenté de solliciter la protection des forces de l’ordre, mais en vain. Les agents ont simplement répondu qu’ils n’ont pas les Page Rankingérogatives nécessaires pour intervenir, ajoutant qu’ils ne voudraient pas subir le même sort que leurs collègues, lors des émeutes de Chiyah », a ajouté le député de Beyrouth.
Interrogé par L’Orient-Le Jour, Atef Majdalani a Page Rankingécisé que « plusieurs couples étaient attablés samedi soir, au « L bar », boîte de la rue Monnot ». « À leurs côtés, plusieurs personnes assises autour d’une même table trinquaient à la santé du secrétaire général du Hezbollah et ont tenté d’imposer à leurs voisins de lever leurs verres à la santé de Hassan Nasrallah. Comme les couples en question ont refusé de se plier à leurs injonctions, une joute verbale a éclaté entre les deux groupes », a-t-il poursuivi.
« À leur sortie, les couples concernés étaient attendus par une vingtaine de personnes sur motocyclettes et armées de couteaux qui les ont attaqués et blessés avant de s’enfuir. Les blessés ont été hospitalisés pendant plusieurs heures. Et une des victimes a porté plainte auprès du commissariat d’Achrafieh », a indiqué le député.

Contactées par L’Orient-Le Jour, les FSI ont confirmé qu’un incident a eu lieu dans une boîte de Beyrouth, Page Rankingécisant qu’elles « n’ont pas été informées des circonstances de cette affaire ». « Personne n’a déposé plainte et nul n’a sollicité notre aide », ont Page Rankingécisé les FSI.
De son côté, Atef Majdalani s’est également interrogé sur le fait de savoir « si le plan des instigateurs des incidents de Chiyah a réussi à briser moralement les forces de l’ordre et à les rendre incapables d’intervenir pour protéger les citoyens, face aux agressions miliciennes ». « Le périmètre de sécurité du sit-in du centre-ville servira-t-il désormais de base aux miliciens qui terrorisent la population de Beyrouth ? Lorsque les forces de l’ordre ne sont plus capables de protéger la population, cela signifie que le pays est confronté à une catastrophe nationale », a-t-il averti.

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Some questions come to mind:

- Who's responsible for these militiamen? Can they be arrested without the streets going ballistic?

- Are those militiamen taking advantage of the stature of HA as a dominant [and armed] party to do such acts?

- Why do you think the ISF did not move a finger to provide security for the citizens that got injured?

- Anyone knows more information on the status of the injuries of these people?
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In Lebanon, in case something similar happened (people attacking other people with knives and causing injuries) it will be all over the news in no time. What about happening in the middle of Downtown where there is an international attention to the situation there (Opposition camp V/S "democratically elected" government)

A Future MP with a well known credibility level talking about it while there is no other report even from sources that usually take advantage of the smallest incidents makes you ask questions.
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majdalani hahahaha
you made my day really interesting story
no complaint at the FSI
no names just the truth spoken by majdalani
something he did not see and was reported to him
because he is hiding from the criminals who obliged him to vote to lahoud
very credible source indeed
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Annahar reported the following today:

مجدلاني: عناصر من الخيم اعتدت على ساهرين في بيروت

رفاقاً لنا بعد حوادث الاحد الاسود في الشياح".[/color]
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are we dealing with kids or what.
i do not think that any ISF member can say this in a way.
why doesn't he give birth to some solutions for our situatuion rather than lying
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It is the "lebanese politics" forum ma heik? for one sec, i thought i was in the "lounge" :)
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It seems that the down town camps are becoming a base from where the HA militia are terrorizing the people of the surrounding areas , what a shame ! and we want to make Lebanon a touristic country ...
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You guys only believe what comes from our media and our people only ???
I don't understand u !! that HAPPENED !!
I'm not defending majdalani, but he knows the name of the persons, he didnt publish the names for security reasons maybe, and I AM SURE 100% that this happened.

Who's responsible for these militiamen? Can they be arrested without the streets going ballistic?
---> Simply Hezbollah.

- Are those militiamen taking advantage of the stature of HA as a dominant [and armed] party to do such acts?
---> Sure, lal asaf.

It is very disappointing to stay defending our allies even if they did mistakes, and what a mistake !! It is just a small fight some of hezbollah members did, maybe hezbollah is responsible because they came from the camp, but its not a mistake on the political level. Why defending them blindly without knowing what really happened ?!?!
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Seek I noticed you're somehow independent/neutral and usually not driven by any information without verifying the source. So why didn't you raise as well (and as a first question) the credibility of this information as one of your several questions?
And as X said, how come no one but Majdalani have reported this, especially if you know that such a news is of the type LF propaganda deadly needs to support its propaganda of an islamization process undergoing in lebanon through HA?
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majdalani hahahaha
you made my day really interesting story
no complaint at the FSI
no names just the truth spoken by majdalani
something he did not see and was reported to him
because he is hiding from the criminals who obliged him to vote to lahoud
very credible source indeed
And what makes this article less credible than the rumors you re spreading about the loyalists or the akhbar articles that you guys post from time to time ?
So when it s an article or even a rumour about the loyalists doing this or that we have a 15 pages thread where the members jump and insult the "loyalists militiamen" saying they are low lifes etc... but when it comes to HA you guys are doing all you can to convince that it s a lie. how objective.
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And what makes this article less credible than the rumors you re spreading about the loyalists or the akhbar articles that you guys post from time to time ?
So when it s an article or even a rumour about the loyalists doing this or that we have a 15 pages thread where the members jump and insult the "loyalists militiamen" saying they are low lifes etc... but when it comes to HA you guys are doing all you can to convince that it s a lie. how objective.
What rumors and who is spreading those rumors and where?
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