Michel Aoun has great eye for the future

[shadow1]

Originally Posted by Amirkani

Great strategist, untimely tactician. Sees things way ahead of their time. Only focuses on what is substantial and far, and often trips on what is small and close by.

Timing is of the essence , is it not ya Amirkani? Your fearless leader seems to be always going 3al7ajj baynama l ness rej3a. Bass yalla anyway btiksera wibtijboura, a sign perhaps that you are wavering in your support for the great one? One does get this sort of feeling at the end of the road.

Depending on who is judging, one could say:

His great strategic vision is often hindered by some erratic and untimely short-term decisions...

OR

His short-term mistakes are later vindicated by his spot-on strategic vision...

You are too kind but you would say that, wouldnt you? But let me remind you that what is needed in Lebanon is not a man with a great vision but a man who understands our history and is knowlegeable of it as it seems to repeat itself with such monotonous regularity it makes you wonder sometimes whether we are fit as a country to walk backward towards the future.

Take your pick.

Either way he makes mistakes. he is only human after all bass ghaltet l shater b alf and since you claim proximity to him, Ask him to go fishing around Nahr l kalb and look at all the inscriptions left there by past conquerors. He might get inspired.

[Amirkani]

Originally Posted by shadow1

Timing is of the essence , is it not ya Amirkani?

Of course.

Originally Posted by shadow1

Your fearless leader seems to be always going 3al7ajj baynama l ness rej3a.

If you read what I wrote, you would have understood that he is the total opposite. Bi rou7 3al 7ajj before anyone recognizes it's required.

Originally Posted by shadow1

Bass yalla anyway btiksera wibtijboura, a sign perhaps that you are wavering in your support for the great one? One does get this sort of feeling at the end of the road.

Don't worry I used to tell him personally the exact same thing I said here while he was still in exile :)

No end of the road in sight, yet :)

Originally Posted by shadow1

You are too kind but you would say that, wouldnt you? But let me remind you that what is needed in Lebanon is not a man with a great vision but a man who understands our history and is knowlegeable of it as it seems to repeat itself with such monotonous regularity it makes you wonder sometimes whether we are fit as a country to walk backward towards the future.

Trendlines don't continue in the same direction indefinitely. Had you understood that, you would have done well in the market :)

Originally Posted by shadow1

Either way he makes mistakes.

Why do you repeat something I already said?

Originally Posted by shadow1

he is only human after all bass ghaltet l shater b alf and since you claim proximity to him, Ask him to go fishing around Nahr l kalb and look at all the inscriptions left there by past conquerors. He might get inspired.

Being human is his forte and the reason we like him.

You don't think he's been to Nahr el-Kalb? Before you were born, I bet.

I refer you back to my lesson about trendlines :)

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[shadow1]

Originally Posted by Amirkani

Trendlines don't continue in the same direction indefinitely. Had you understood that, you would have done well in the market :)

You wouldnt miss a chance to rub salt in the wound would you?
While I totally agree that trendlines do not continue indefinitely, have a look at the trend Lebanon is going and tell me which decade was better than the prior one since 1920. Now if somehow you reckon a man can break the trend and sets a new one in motion, you will forgive me if I sit on the fence waiting for concrete proofs rather than wishful thinking.

Why do you repeat something I already said?

Having you as mentor compels me to step out of character and be unoriginal for a change.

Being human is his forte and the reason we like him.

If that is all that is required to be admired, I wouldnt despair if they havent yet built my mausoleum on a hill overlooking Jounieh. What you are saying here reinforces what I always believed in and that is the country can only function at the lowest common denominator level. Full stop. Day by day I am more and more convinced. And to think I once had a dream.

You don't think he's been to Nahr el-Kalb? Before you were born, I bet.

I might have missed the inscription he left behind the last time I had to answer nature's call around that area.

I refer you back to my lesson about trendlines :)

Alert me please when one is broken. Too much subtlety leaves me quite uncertain.

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by Amirkani

Great strategist, untimely tactician. Sees things way ahead of their time. Only focuses on what is substantial and far, and often trips on what is small and close by.

Depending on who is judging, one could say:

His great strategic vision is often hindered by some erratic and untimely short-term decisions...

OR

His short-term mistakes are later vindicated by his spot-on strategic vision...

Take your pick.

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Short term is also important and real. It is isn't expendable and it affects what comes next. Bad short term decisions can hinder your strategic vision and ultimate goals, and too many bad short term decisions may end your quest altogether before you or anyone gets to find out if you were visionary or not. A great leader always finds a way to balance both short and long term strategy in a principled steady approach.

[Amirkani]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

Short term is also important and real. It is isn't expendable and it affects what comes next. Bad short term decisions can hinder your strategic vision and ultimate goals, and too many bad short term decisions may end your quest altogether before you or anyone gets to find out if you were visionary or not. A great leader always finds a way to balance both short and long term strategy in a principled steady approach.

The problem/hindrance with a great vision is not the leader who envisioned it... it's rather in many of the ones he's trying to lead who lack vision. They can't see it until it hits them in the face.

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[Red Phoenix]

gma is something, i am not impressed by any political lebanese figure i know of since the 1950s apart from gma

the man is a school in decent politics

it just seems out of place to have gma in tribal lebanon

he's trying to make something out of this pseudo country

he's trying to make it a country

but experience tought me that lebanese are creatures of habits and of those holy habits are obstinence, paranoia, suicidal urges, violence, and individual prophetic delusions

so i honestly dont expect tribal ppl to understand gma nor do i care to try to waste my time debating them or getting preached by them

so we go back to the basics

to each his own

while for some gma is the devil in my book he is one of the few on my favorite list

the guy always pushes for moves that perserve our dignity, our lives and our sanity in this small big sanitarium called lebanon

he is one of the few humans in this zoo of animals

[Youchka]

I wanted to open a thread about that Taef agreement, and GMA's vision of it, and here comes our friend Sev and opens that thread for us. Thank you Sev.

Now since we are all celebrating the 20 years of that great Taef agreement, we have been hammered for the past week by programs, interviews, reports... about that issue. Most of the programs hosted people who gave their opinion about that agreement, people who are today from both opposition and loyalists. Many of them, including opposition figures say "if Taef was well implemented, it would have been ideal.....".

Back then, Michel Aoun had no problem with the Taef agreement per se, he had a problem with the implementation of that agreement, as to the how, the when. He said and said it many times back then (and that for all the zouzou ebbas of today yalli ma keno ba3ed fakasso men el bayda) that he has no problem with many things that the Taef talked about, his only problem back then were 2 issues: one was the president's salahiyet that were cut and as it happens, today MOST of the Lebanese are acknowledging that, and the second issue was the Syrian role in the country that was not really specified in the agreement, neither essence wise nor time wise. And funny enough, the nightmare that the senile Batrak was gloating of seeing over had just began on that October 13, and the Batrak as well as all Christians were mad3oussin bel sermeye for 15 long years.

So at the end of the day, THAT GREAT TAEF AGREEMENT WAS THE WORST THING EVER, and to whoever is saying "if it was implemented well, it would have been great ideal....", HELLOOOOOOOOOO IT WAS NOT WELL IMPLEMENTED SO MICHEL AOUN WAS RIGHT, HE KNEW THAT IT WOULDN'T BE WELL IMPLEMENTED, WHICH ALL OF YOU DIDN'T SEE, STOP USING THE IF, IF I GO BY YOUR LOGIC AND KEEP ON GIVING EXCUSES BY USING THE IF, I WOULD BE THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND TODAY AND CONDOLEESA RICE WOULD BE MY MAID.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Youchka

So at the end of the day, THAT GREAT TAEF AGREEMENT WAS THE WORST THING EVER, and to whoever is saying "if it was implemented well, it would have been great ideal....",

Not implemented but abused. It's a curse.

HELLOOOOOOOOOO IT WAS NOT WELL IMPLEMENTED SO MICHEL AOUN WAS RIGHT, HE KNEW THAT IT WOULDN'T BE WELL IMPLEMENTED, WHICH ALL OF YOU DIDN'T SEE, STOP USING THE IF, IF I GO BY YOUR LOGIC AND KEEP ON GIVING EXCUSES BY USING THE IF, I WOULD BE THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND TODAY AND CONDOLEESA RICE WOULD BE MY MAID.

I'm sure you wouldn't want to look like the queen of England and have Condi in your face all day Good that you're not going by their logic :D

[NMA]

After reading his book, I came to believe this man is the greatest politician we ever had.

Amazon.com: General Aoun - Une certaine Vision du Liban- francais: Michel Aoun: Books

give it a try, i'm sure most of you have read it and for those who don't then do it. It's incredibly smart and informative.

However it's always out of stock at Amazon but if you're in Lebanon get your copy from Virgin or smthg.

A book not to miss.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by NMA

After reading his book, I came to believe this man is the greatest politician we ever had.

Amazon.com: General Aoun - Une certaine Vision du Liban- francais: Michel Aoun: Books

give it a try, i'm sure most of you have read it and for those who don't then do it. It's incredibly smart and informative.

However it's always out of stock at Amazon but if you're in Lebanon get your copy from Virgin or smthg.

A book not to miss.

What happened to the English version?