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Murr is the number one electoral force in Maten.

By not having him on our list i predict a sweep for Feb14.

Bye bye Maten (Thank God finna n3awwid in Keserwen).
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syria supports you
so maramiro and Gma will be same list soon before few hours of the election, in addition
mur has pretend on media to show that he is an independant from elsa7 and teghyir however he still affected with syria
N>B no one can denny that mur is the man of the maten due to his multy services during syrien occupation
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It would be more interesting to see how many armenians will abide by Tashnag's wish to still vote for Murr even if out of C&R list, bc believe it or not, Murr will get a lot of toshteeb from the armenians in 2009.
Whether more will yshattbo a C&R candidate to put Murr instead than abide by a full list remains to be seen.
self confidence is a beautiful thing
bas fi ela 7dood .....it's not a movie where the good guy will win law shou ma sar

give me one reason why armenians will yshatbo michel el murr (ma32eno tashnag clearly want to vote murr , wich means that armenian electors will go against tashnag's will)
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Murr is the number one electoral force in Maten.

By not having him on our list i predict a sweep for Feb14.

Bye bye Maten (Thank God finna n3awwid in Keserwen).
Also add amin el gemayyel to your list, that sarkis guy, nissab lahoud and his nephew the swimmer to your list and then you can sweep maten.
Stupid logic allow me to say to add people to your list that do not represent your point of view, then get them elected and they can do what they want and you get nothing out of them.
If people want Murr they will vote for him and make isla7 w taghyir lose but isla7 w taghyir has to fight the battle and let the people choose who they want, nobody has the right to force murr on them without an alternative.
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Murr is the number one electoral force in Maten.

By not having him on our list i predict a sweep for Feb14.

Bye bye Maten (Thank God finna n3awwid in Keserwen).
Murr is not even force 5 or 6 in metn .

The electoral force of murr overlaps with that of gemayel and doesnt add up to it .

I guarantee you if this happens bye bye murr .
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Murr is the number one electoral force in Maten.

By not having him on our list i predict a sweep for Feb14.

Bye bye Maten (Thank God finna n3awwid in Keserwen).
u r being a tad too pessimistic TK
granted mm have some weight
and if he is against us , it will affect
but only 30% or about of listat are zay ma heyya
the rest are a mix. so we still have a lot of clout in here
and we will still win a decent number of mps
the issue will mm risk going against us and not fully win, this means his end
and let me remind u that mm is close to syria always and he can not side openly with jam3ett sa3doun.........
i have been saying that lallous will have something to do with us directly or indirectly , just wait and see.
i will be very surprised if not, very
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Murr supporters will vote (and have voted) for Murr for the Orthodox seat in Matn. However, don't they have their own opinion when it comes for the other seats?

When they vote for the Maronite seats for instance, do they necessarily vote for Murr's allies or do they vote for whoever their conscience and political aspirations tell them to?
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Murr is the number one electoral force in Maten.

By not having him on our list i predict a sweep for Feb14.

Bye bye Maten (Thank God finna n3awwid in Keserwen).
For real?! Laken ta ndobb chenatna w nfell :D

Man, if all your predictions are as accurate as the one of Maten than kerseh!
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self confidence is a beautiful thing
bas fi ela 7dood .....it's not a movie where the good guy will win law shou ma sar
It has nothing to do with self confidence. I didn't claim that Metn was an easy ride, but sometimes ppl do fall in propaganda and go with the flow, especially those not living in the area of question.

If anything, it's the other way around. It's not true at all that if Murr is not with FPM, then FPM will definitely lose in Metn. A reality check was due in this situation.

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give me one reason why armenians will yshatbo michel el murr (ma32eno tashnag clearly want to vote murr , wich means that armenian electors will go against tashnag's will)
I live in a heavily armenian populated region, so eza btesma7le.
First, if Murr allies with AG, then let him dream of even getting 20% of the armenian votes.
Second, armenians like FPM and revere GMA very much and do not appreciate any disrespect towards him and the C&R bloc, Murr's attacks towards FPM and the bloc didn't go well with a lot of armenians.
Third, many armenians have come to see what a low life backstabbing two timer Murr is, especially with his frequent a**kicking to the loyalists followed by tobyid tanajer towards GMA then attacks on FPM a couple of weeks later.
Fourth, the armenians saw only FPM standing by them in Daw7a, Murr was working under the table with the loyalists w ma toli3 7esso to defend the rights of the armenians to elect their representatives in Beirut.
Fifth, Tashnag's influence on the young generations is diminishing while FPM's is growing.
Sixth, tashnag can have a pretty strong influence with the armenians with matters concerning armenian rights but hold little sway in lebanese related affairs which are totally unrelated to armenian rights especially that others can now procure them these lebanese rights.
Seventh, corruption is surrounding Murr's henchmen in the Bourj Hammoud municipality which is eating away at Murr's credibility and is not going too well with many armenians in the area......I can continue if u want, but I believe what I stated is more than enough.
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Murr is the number one electoral force in Maten.

By not having him on our list i predict a sweep for Feb14.

Bye bye Maten (Thank God finna n3awwid in Keserwen).
TK, the jokes are in the Lounge section.

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syria supports you
so maramiro and Gma will be same list soon before few hours of the election, in addition
mur has pretend on media to show that he is an independant from elsa7 and teghyir however he still affected with syria
N>B no one can denny that mur is the man of the maten due to his multy services during syrien occupation
Ok, FPM is pro-syrian to the bones. We got u. Anything else u like to add?
As for the "no one can deny", lak can ppl stop generalizing and start talking in their name only? Sheesh!
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