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View Poll Results: Metn 2009; should FPM leave a seat open for gemayel?
No, FPM should run with a full list. 92 78.63%
yes, for strategic electoral reasons 16 13.68%
yes, as a favor to Amine Gemayyel 0 0%
i don't care 9 7.69%
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In the last election, The FPM when it was sure of winning left a vacant position for the Gemayyel that was killed (I cant remember his name now) and look how his mum and dad turned so vicious against Aoun.
So why should the FPM leave any seats for his brother when the election could be very tight. It's not like it's a charity contest knowing how seriously the Lebanese take inconsequential events such as electing representatives who barely contribute enything useful to the well being of that country.

They could leave a position vacant if they can get a trade it off with another one where the kataeb is sure to win but it's hard to tell in which area it they hold sway.

They could do it indirectly though by having a SSNP candidate on their list. That would be sure bet for them to lose a lot of the Christian votes and may get the younger Gemayyel over the line without looking like a philantropic gesture, assuming of course that the armenians will still be part of the FPM coalition.

The beauty of Lebanese elections is that they are devoid of any ideological context they look like a comedy with too many characters and hardly a worthwhile plot.
bull's eye. FPM risks alienating a considerable chunk of voters if it runs with a full list; no matter how that list is conceived. but still, i have as much sympathy for SSNP as i do for AG and Murr.

an SSNP candidate in the list is as bad an omen as a full list that doesn't include SSNP.

unless SSNP runs with an orthodox candidate this time around, it would solve many problems; tashnaq would be satisfied and the gemayel's guy (the father or the son) would remain out, for good hopefully.
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The other MP is Selim Aoun who is from Zahle, and he is related to GMA same as i am related to Elvis Presley, Gebran has been in FPM since 1989, a decade before meeting his wife and he was a "leader" in FPM and while meeting with GMA in Paris, he met his wife, so with or without his wife, Gebran has been active member in FPM.

As for Alain, it's very funny, Alain and many other members in GMA's family are very active in FPM, i know at least 10 of them, they all used to get beaten and arrested same like the rest of us, even today, they are in FPM same as the rest of us, while Alain broke his way toward the leadership (still he is not a major figure in FPM), the rest are just normal members.
Thanks for the clarification. And actually i wasnt talking about salim aoun, there is this other MP whose name i dont remember... dont know i guess im wrong.
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I would say, Yes for a closed list.
GMA should run in Maten as well. Let's see how powerfull FPM is.
no one is waiting for u to see anything really, nor no one is waiting for ur precious biased feedback and judgement.

how fpm runs in metn will depend on the best form of list needed to win the elections.

i repeat, no one cares to keep arguing with u guys about the size of fpm and whatnot, the only thing that matters is choosing the best list with the biggest potential of winning.

kindergarten whinning is out, academic schoolwork is in, so i guess u guys will be out of luck for a while.
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it's simple math.

2005 70% GMA+tashnag +MM vs 30% ag +14M

2007 50%gma+tashnag+MM vs 50% ag +14M

2009 30%gma + semi tashnag vs 70% ag+ MM +14M + semi tashnag
there is no doubt about it, u sure are simple in math.

the problem with dealing with delusional ppl, is they never really 'talk', they simply speak their imagination out loud. go argue with that..
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Metn i assume will be hard. MM does not even know which side he wants to go with. He said that he is now independant. So his suppoters will ONLY vote for him ? Is he going to have a list of ONLY him and Tashnaq ? One thing for sure is that MM & tashnaq will be allied but Tashnaq does not want to leave out GMA and MM does not want to leave out AG. At the end it will be a tough battle and no list will be completely win. There will be 'khare2' bi listet.
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why would i want to vote for Gemayels ?
(personal opinion) i never liked him nor his politics .
Amino and his familly including his wife raged a war publicly against FPM and GMA and PUBLICLY accused us to be behind the assassination of their son = Allying with the syrio iranian ma ba3rif chou criminals . for the past 3 years A.gemayel had one duty to perform = to discredit GMA and FPM . why would he want to be on our liste the liste of those he keep insulting and accusing of all sins ? walaw ma nehna bel axis of evil why would he accept to be on FPM syrio iranian liste ?

did he appologies ? PUBLICLY ? even if he does i will chatbo i will not vote for him nor his son . like i will not vote for Murr if he is on our liste murr appologised publicly did i believe him ? NO an electoral appology is not accepted mich la hal darajeh ana habla machouna .
bi kaffi ba2a we keep forgiving and open our arms for those filthy corrupt people and all we take is backstabing after backstabing we are neither santa clause nor caritas . yrouho ykhayto bi gheir mssaleh . let the best win . this is democracy .

full liste full stop .
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Well you didn't let him win after his son died, why should you let him win now?
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good he has received it from saniora...from GMA-"wardet fel"!!!
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