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I don't know what to think about that... Usually, teenagers and very young people are either absolutely not interested politics or are deeply interested in politics.

Those who are interested in politics, usually tend to the extremes (left or right). So the situation doesn't really shock me... The situation was not the same during the syrian occupation because FPM was the spearhead of the movement against the occupation - so the "extreme".

I'm certain that being pro-LF to the bone when you're 17 or 18 does not mean you won't evolve and grow up a little bit. Now it's although true that young people will vote too... and may be there is a lack of work on the ground from FPM but here I can not judge FPM and its leaders as I'm not exactly aware of the efforts carried out.
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The most important part - 27 Oct 2009
جعجع: القوات اللبنانية ليست حزب الرجل الواحد، صحيح أن هناك رجل قوي في القوات لكن معه قيادات قوية
جعجع: تركيزنا الأساسي على استيعاب الجيل الجديد
جعجع: هدفنا هو تعبئة الرأي العام المسيحي لمصلحة مشروعنا السياسي وهذا حقنا، وما نقوم به يخفف من شعبية الآخرين
جعجع: من كان مقاتلا في القوات من 30 عاما ليس جبانا وإذا حصلت أحداث كـ23 كانون سينزلون على الأرض لفتح الطرقات


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I don't want to seem silly, or missing something, but what is LF political plan?, SG keeps referring to a christian plan, does he explicits it somewhere and when and where.
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جعجع: القوات اللبنانية ليست حزب الرجل الواحد، صحيح أن هناك رجل قوي في القوات لكن معه قيادات قوية
جعجع: تركيزنا الأساسي على استيعاب الجيل الجديد
This statement reminds me of GMA's TV interviews when he was in France. Marcel Ghanem always used to ask him " What are you relying on to accomplish your political agenda?" and he used to answer " The Youth and the Students".

Now the same strategy is used by his rival.

Focusing on the youth is a mean for any political party in any country in order to reach an aim.

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This statement reminds me of GMA's TV interviews when he was in France. Marcel Ghanem always used to ask him " What are you relying on to accomplish your political agenda?" and he used to answer " The Youth and the Students".

Now the same strategy is used by his rival.

Focusing on the youth is a mean for any political party in any country in order to reach an aim.

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did GENERal MAKE inroads be bcahri and those areas, NOOOOOOOO.
so relax guys samir geagea ma3roufe wein manat2ou.
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If the ministry of education allow books like "Modern World History" to be taught at schools what do you expect.
Back to topic. The problem comes first from schools.
What History did they teach us?
What history they are teaching now?
How many History books we have?

I remember back at school times we use to learn about the history of Lebanon from the early 1920's (i3lan dawlat lebnan al kabir) till early 1970's(before the war started).
Then they jumped to Hrawi as president till now.
Where is the 1975-1990 in our history, though its a very bad history.
If they dont want to teach our kids the civil war at least let them open our kids eyes to be patriotic.
Let them teach our kids that in a civil war everyone is a looser.
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I don't want to seem silly, or missing something, but what is LF political plan?, SG keeps referring to a christian plan, does he explicits it somewhere and when and where.
LF political plan is total domination and power over a Christian ghetto, like they had in the 80's.
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what troubles me in lebanon, is that crooks very often admit their plans in the open, and yet people still invest in them.

here you go for example, geagea openly admits influencing and manipulating the public opinion towards a specific political agenda, and you have yet to find this offending one of his supporters.

geagea's statements should send shockwaves through the LF support base, but i can assure you that they will not only pass unquestioned, but they will be embraced and hailed as an excellent strategy.

but truth be told, geagea and his LF do not hesitate when it comes to breaking the rules to further their political line. FPMers, on the otherhand, have to struggle with the moral dillemma of how ethical it is to influence someone though propaganda methods; and while they are busy "monologing" as they often do, the LFers cut with commitment.

i dont feel like talking about these issues anymore, but for god's sake, if the's some decision maker within FPM reading, i have two words for you, grow some balls!
I hate to say it, but the guy is so sure of himself and so good, that he's talking about his plans publicly and here in the forum you have people still stuck at attacking his personality.

Geagea is right on the money here.
He may have 5 MPs today, but if he keeps on targeting the youth, he'll have many more in the years to come.
FPM is working on the present, LF is working on the future.

And the dude knows this, he knows the FPM is gonna try to discredit him while reminding people (25 and above) about what he's done during the war.

But the youngsters don't know that and they don't care.

Unless the FPM goes to the roots and starts without the youngsters, the LF will take over in a couple of years
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But the youngsters don't know that and they don't care.

Unless the FPM goes to the roots and starts without the youngsters, the LF will take over in a couple of years
I don't know about the second sentence but the first one is troubling... We do have media archive, we do have his interviews, comments from his victims' families and friends, footage, etc. I don't understand why we don't use this more aggressively through OTV?

But let's be professional about that... In some way, I think we should have a professional outside agency (willing to donate for that) to help us build a PR machine focused on promoting FPM and reminding people of the atrocities of some of the war criminals...

And if FPM doesn't want to be associated with it, we can use "proxies": i.e. rabitat koudama el kouwat, create an association of Geagea's victims, mouhajjarin el jabal, army martyrs widows and orphans and the list goes on
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There's really nothing that Geagea ever said or says today that is worth listening to. It's obvious that the FPM needs to reinvigorate itself and appeal to younger generations, but to use Dr. Geagea as a model is not only pathetic, it is also suicidal.
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I hate to say it, but the guy is so sure of himself and so good, that he's talking about his plans publicly and here in the forum you have people still stuck at attacking his personality.

Geagea is right on the money here.
He may have 5 MPs today, but if he keeps on targeting the youth, he'll have many more in the years to come.
FPM is working on the present, LF is working on the future.

And the dude knows this, he knows the FPM is gonna try to discredit him while reminding people (25 and above) about what he's done during the war.

But the youngsters don't know that and they don't care.

Unless the FPM goes to the roots and starts without the youngsters, the LF will take over in a couple of years
keep believing in your history they will never make it
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