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What is the alternative for the current 14 March ?

Back to pre-05?
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Nope that would be the same bunch.

The alternative is something new you will witness starting june 8 and I heard it has something to do with reform and change
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To March 14ers: Be careful for whom you vote. History repeats itself only if YOU let it.

If you happen to be too young to remember, ask your parents and they’ll tell you: back in the seventies, Syria was invited to Lebanon by Camille Chamoun and Pierre Gemayel with US guaranties that Syria will be on the Christian’s side… We all know the rest of the story.
Syria occupied Lebanon for 29 years with the blessing of the US and Israel while the Lebanese voices were muffled until GMA stood up against them all.
Hariri’s assassination was the result of a new neo conservative agenda for the Middle East called the Road Map and Lebanon’s role in it was to absorb its Palestinian population.
Just like every other Bush venture, the road map failed along with the Iraq War. A strong alliance between Iran and Syria immerged as a consequence for such dismal failures.
Iran was called an axis of evil for a reason that has nothing to do with Lebanon nor its Christians. The new US administration is still staying the course vis-à-vis Iran. It has finally adopted Thomas Friedman concept of isolating Iran from Syria even if that meant for Syria to becoming Lebanon’s broker once again. One advantage for Israel would be for Syria to contain HA away from Iran.
Detaining the 4 Generals following the assassination of Hariri was a brilliant move to divert the attention from the real killers and put the pressure on Syria. But their release just before the June elections and shortly after Hillary Clinton’s visit to Baabda means one thing, and one thing only regardless of Syria’s role in the assassination had there ever been one: It means a clear transformation in the US foreign policy towards Syria’s role in Lebanon.
For those who believe the four Generals had something to do with the assassination, releasing them means the US has accepted Syria’s actions there.
For those who believe the Generals are innocent and their detention was a cover-up to put pressure on Syria, that also means Syria is no longer targeted by the US.
In other words, Lebanon better get ready to go back to its old Master if its people don’t realize the seriousness of their situation soon enough before they cast their votes.
History will not repeat itself if we don’t let it.
Most of the Loyalists camp leaders have been dutifully loyal to their Masters but not to their citizens. They are the same ones that served their Syrian Masters before serving the American one. Remember those are the same leaders that traded the blood and souls of their own relatives and family members by ignoring their killers so they can stay in power. How can they ever justify not finding a shred of evidence against Hariri’s killers after many years of controlling the government with every tool and resource at their disposal, and the “backing” of the world community.
Among many others, Kamal Jumblatt, Bashir Gemayel, Danny Chamoun, Rene Moawad, Pierre Amin Gemael and of course Rafik Hariri are still vivid in our memories- Not theirs!
Needless to say, GMA cared more about the victims than their own families did.
It’s time for us to realize Lebanon’s function in the region is simply a bargaining chip on a hot poker bed. Thanks to the opposition that chip became hotter than the bed itself and those who tried touching it burned their hands. Lebanon’s strategic victories achieved by its resistance made the big players return to their drawing boards. Let’s make sure they understand once and for all they can chew but they can’t swallow us.
Once again, if you don’t want history repeating itself by having Syria controlling your life all over again, don’t elect the same old dynasties that failed you miserably during the past 50 years.
You don’t have to choose between Masters. You can be your own. YES YOU CAN!
excellent!!!! So let's not vote Frangieh, Arslan, Berrin, Wahab, Quanso, ssnp, HA, and of course their allies (oops that include FPM).
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excellent!!!! So let's not vote Frangieh, Arslan, Berrin, Wahab, Quanso, ssnp, HA, and of course their allies (oops that include FPM).
No the principal is to not vote for slaves like Saadoon and the rest of your gang.
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Remember those are the same leaders that traded the blood and souls of their own relatives and family members by ignoring their killers so they can stay in power. How can they ever justify not finding a shred of evidence against Hariri’s killers after many years of controlling the government with every tool and resource at their disposal, and the “backing” of the world community.
Among many others, Kamal Jumblatt, Bashir Gemayel, Danny Chamoun, Rene Moawad, Pierre Amin Gemael and of course Rafik Hariri are still vivid in our memories- Not theirs!
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What is the alternative for the current 14 March ?

Back to pre-05?
Ma they are already the same bunch.
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excellent!!!! So let's not vote Frangieh, Arslan, Berrin, Wahab, Quanso, ssnp, HA, and of course their allies (oops that include FPM).
Take Saad Hariri; a man who sat in the White House next to George Bush. A man who had money, political power and International support more than any other person in Lebanon, could not identify his father’s killers.
Take Amin Gemael, Lebanon’s “ex President” who could not wait for his own son to be burried so he can inherit his parliamentary seat.
Take Dory Chamoun who sided with Samir Geagea, his brother’s killer.
Take Walid Jumblatt who admitted cooperating with the Syrians knowing they killed his father.
Are those the politicians you want them to elect your next President and defend you when Uncle Sam tells them Damascus is your shrine from now on?
Are you old enough to remember such scenarios? If not ask your parents.
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Nope that would be the same bunch.

The alternative is something new you will witness starting june 8 and I heard it has something to do with reform and change
With SSNP, Berri, Wahab?

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Ma they are already the same bunch.
Those bunch made the Cedar Revolution that kicked the Syrian army out of Lebanon. You were part of it remember?
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Those bunch made the Cedar Revolution that kicked the Syrian army out of Lebanon. You were part of it remember?
The Cedar Revolution kicked the syrian army out? The US gave the green light for Syria to enter Lebanon, and once this light turned red, it had to leave. the 14 March demo was more of a moral pressure than the real reason behind the departure of the syrian army.
But if any lebanese is to be bestowed upon the honor of kicking the syrians out, it would be those who resisted them for 15 years when they were ruling, not those who suddenly remembered that Syria was an occupier when Rafic Hariri died.

Now, this still does not deny that what I said was accurate. The guys ruling today were the same bunch ruling during the syrian era. Heck, nothing changed with them except that their allegiance changed from Syria to the USA. They still have the same thinking and the exact same behavior. They haven't changed one tiny bit.
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