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Default To March 14ers: Be careful for whom you vote. History repeats itself only if YOU let it. - 8th May 2009

To March 14ers: Be careful for whom you vote. History repeats itself only if YOU let it.

If you happen to be too young to remember, ask your parents and they’ll tell you: back in the seventies, Syria was invited to Lebanon by Camille Chamoun and Pierre Gemayel with US guaranties that Syria will be on the Christian’s side… We all know the rest of the story.
Syria occupied Lebanon for 29 years with the blessing of the US and Israel while the Lebanese voices were muffled until GMA stood up against them all.
Hariri’s assassination was the result of a new neo conservative agenda for the Middle East called the Road Map and Lebanon’s role in it was to absorb its Palestinian population.
Just like every other Bush venture, the road map failed along with the Iraq War. A strong alliance between Iran and Syria immerged as a consequence for such dismal failures.
Iran was called an axis of evil for a reason that has nothing to do with Lebanon nor its Christians. The new US administration is still staying the course vis-à-vis Iran. It has finally adopted Thomas Friedman concept of isolating Iran from Syria even if that meant for Syria to becoming Lebanon’s broker once again. One advantage for Israel would be for Syria to contain HA away from Iran.
Detaining the 4 Generals following the assassination of Hariri was a brilliant move to divert the attention from the real killers and put the pressure on Syria. But their release just before the June elections and shortly after Hillary Clinton’s visit to Baabda means one thing, and one thing only regardless of Syria’s role in the assassination had there ever been one: It means a clear transformation in the US foreign policy towards Syria’s role in Lebanon.
For those who believe the four Generals had something to do with the assassination, releasing them means the US has accepted Syria’s actions there.
For those who believe the Generals are innocent and their detention was a cover-up to put pressure on Syria, that also means Syria is no longer targeted by the US.
In other words, Lebanon better get ready to go back to its old Master if its people don’t realize the seriousness of their situation soon enough before they cast their votes.
History will not repeat itself if we don’t let it.
Most of the Loyalists camp leaders have been dutifully loyal to their Masters but not to their citizens. They are the same ones that served their Syrian Masters before serving the American one. Remember those are the same leaders that traded the blood and souls of their own relatives and family members by ignoring their killers so they can stay in power. How can they ever justify not finding a shred of evidence against Hariri’s killers after many years of controlling the government with every tool and resource at their disposal, and the “backing” of the world community.
Among many others, Kamal Jumblatt, Bashir Gemayel, Danny Chamoun, Rene Moawad, Pierre Amin Gemael and of course Rafik Hariri are still vivid in our memories- Not theirs!
Needless to say, GMA cared more about the victims than their own families did.
It’s time for us to realize Lebanon’s function in the region is simply a bargaining chip on a hot poker bed. Thanks to the opposition that chip became hotter than the bed itself and those who tried touching it burned their hands. Lebanon’s strategic victories achieved by its resistance made the big players return to their drawing boards. Let’s make sure they understand once and for all they can chew but they can’t swallow us.
Once again, if you don’t want history repeating itself by having Syria controlling your life all over again, don’t elect the same old dynasties that failed you miserably during the past 50 years.
You don’t have to choose between Masters. You can be your own. YES YOU CAN!
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The best thing to do is for them not to vote at all.
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So how will voting for the candidates of Hezbollah, Amal, SSNP, and Marada prevent Syria's retaking of Lebanon and voting for March 14 facilitate it?

Sincerely not a sarcastic question, I'm truly looking to be enlightened...
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So how will voting for the candidates of Hezbollah, Amal, SSNP, and Marada prevent Syria's retaking of Lebanon and voting for March 14 facilitate it?

Sincerely not a sarcastic question, I'm truly looking to be enlightened...
Change and Reform block has 59 candidates... you can vote for them, as GMA was the ONLY one who stood against Syria when SG, WJ, Hariri, Gemayel, Boutros Harb, etc. were executing the Syrians' evey wish...

And if you really have any doubts or adverse reaction, one can understand you if you don't vote for Marada or SSNP... but these are less than 8 out of the 59 C&R candidates... That's still more than 50 candidates for you to vote for!!!
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So how will voting for the candidates of Hezbollah, Amal, SSNP, and Marada prevent Syria's retaking of Lebanon and voting for March 14 facilitate it?

Sincerely not a sarcastic question, I'm truly looking to be enlightened...
Why should one assume that voting for the candidates of Hezbollah, Amal, SSNP, and Marada would enable Syria's retaking of Lebanon at the first place, for anyone to try to prove the opposite?


The Guardian Predicts End of 'Cedar Revolution' after Elections

The Guardian Predicts End of 'Cedar Revolution' after Elections


08/05/2009

One month ahead of the parliamentary elections, the democratic process continues to draw the interest of the Western media…

Indeed, British daily The Guardian devoted a complete article for the upcoming elections, in which it predicted a sweeping victory for the national opposition and the end of the so-called "Cedar Revolution" represented by the loyalty bloc.

Almost exactly four years after its launch, "Lebanon's Cedar Revolution seems to be nearing the end of the road," the article's author Nicholas Noe declared at the first sentence of his report.

Noe emphasized that as a number of western election observers, diplomats and even ardent supporters of the March 14 bloc now publicly acknowledge, it is likely that the opposition will take control of the next four-year parliament when elections are held on June 7.

"Apparently seeking to get out ahead of events, the UK, France, Denmark and other EU countries are already staking out a different course, vigorously pursuing an open policy of engagement with the opposition – and especially with Hezbollah," Nicholas Noe remarked.

"As an important part of this effort, France has made it clear that March 14 "do or die" sloganeering around the upcoming polls is not shared by the Elysee: Lebanon will not suddenly transform into an Islamic republic on the Mediterranean following an opposition win, nor will Syria regain the position it held over what amounted to a 30-year occupation of its neighbor," the article then said.

According to the Guardian, top US officials are apparently content with focusing on the bigger picture of engaging Iran and Syria and leaving Lebanon to the rhetorical purview of staunch March 14 supporters like Jeffrey Feltman, the former ambassador to Lebanon, now assistant secretary of near east policy, who presided over March 14's spectacular rise and fall.

The British daily concluded by calling on the US administration and EU states, instead of seeking to isolate the new majority then, to encourage March 14 to be a partner and take up at least a filibustering position in any new "national unity" cabinet "– something that the opposition has already offered but which March 14 has rejected, apparently for electioneering considerations."

Source:Al Manar.
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So how will voting for the candidates of Hezbollah, Amal, SSNP, and Marada prevent Syria's retaking of Lebanon and voting for March 14 facilitate it?

Sincerely not a sarcastic question, I'm truly looking to be enlightened...
“Life Lovers” need to sober up. If they really fear Syria the US is throwing them back into Syria’s lap.
If they can think of something other than GMA’s movement that can say NO to the whole world when it comes to Lebanon’s independence and sovereignty so be it.
It’s about time to accept the fact that GMA is not and was never Syria’s man. Insisting on a mutual respect with Syria makes him a wise and respectable statesman.
Not too long ago, Walid Jumblatt and the rest of his camp were calling for Basshar El Assad assasination. How excited Syria is going to be if you elect those lose canons and have the US tell them Syria is our agent now, go talk to her first if you need to solve your problems…
Just like the collapse of the old Kremlin machine. The Bush era of neoconservative lies and deception is over. The US economy is not good, there were no WMDs in Iraq, the Iraq War is lost and guess who killed Rafik Hariri???
Not that they have a better option, the Obama administration has pulled the plug on not just the fake Cedar Revolution, but Iraq, Guantanamo Bay and so on. Obama apologized to “Old Europe”, met with Hugo Chavez, started dealing with Syria and acknowledging all Lebanon’s parties. As of now, it has become up to Iran to accept dealing with the US not the other way around.
Looking back to the Clinton era, the Middle East had 7 years of peace and the US had practically no headaches. Those were the days when Syria occupied Lebanon! And Jumblatt was their Henchman. Any hints or ideas come to mind now?
Once again, history will not repeat itself if we don’t let it. Don’t invite Syria back by electing puppets. Even the Syrians might be better off with a Lebanese government that respects itself so they don’t have to worry about a pro Israeli Lebanese regime ready and willing to harm them.
For so long, the Christians of Lebanon were used by Israel and the West. They’ve been looked at by the world and especially the Arab world as unpatriotic traitors willing the sell their country for the right price. That’s what the International Agenda counted on but failed. It failed because General Michel Aoun proved that not all Christians are traitors. The June 7 elections will also prove that most of them are not. They were fooled and finally woke up. If you happen to be a Christian and considered yourself Lebanese, you are an Arab just like a Christian Palestinian, Syrian, Jordanian, Egyptian, and Iraqi and, you better be proud of it. Snap out of it, you are not special just because you’re Christian.

Thank you GMA for telling us the truth and setting us free!
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So how will voting for the candidates of Hezbollah, Amal, SSNP, and Marada prevent Syria's retaking of Lebanon and voting for March 14 facilitate it?

Sincerely not a sarcastic question, I'm truly looking to be enlightened...
you are still thinking in 2 dimensions.

think 3d for a sec and u will see that the 14 smurfs will ally with jesus, satan, syria and mohamad and burn in hell for it too if it meant that that alliance will bring down gma.

1990 all over again,

but some ppl just never learn their lesson,

u cannot bring down the world's center of gravity without floating in space like dead fish afterwards hehe
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So how will voting for the candidates of Hezbollah, Amal, SSNP, and Marada prevent Syria's retaking of Lebanon and voting for March 14 facilitate it?

Sincerely not a sarcastic question, I'm truly looking to be enlightened...
Who "forced" Syria out, who gave the order? You think it was the people of so called cedar revolution? The one who gave Syria green light in 1990 can only bring them back, but am quite sure they dont want to come back...you shall fear Israel's intention of annexation rather than Syria's

And you dont need to vote for Amal right? Who wants to vote for them anyway?:D only those who have business interests with Berri

As for the very title of the thread, I see it meaningless such calls which target M14ers. Those who are devoted M14 supporters no reasoning on this earth can help or would enlighten them, they live in their own version of history and they chose the interpretation which best suits their interest.

It makes more sense to target the undecided or so called neutrals, who are lost in translation and might need a lil help to see through.
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... That's still more than 50 candidates for you to vote for!!!
Unfortunately, I cannot be in Lebanon during the elections and will not be able to vote. Even if I were, and I was inclined to vote for an FPM candidate, I wouldn't be able to in my local Marjeyoun/Zahrani district because C&R was not allowed by its "allies" to run a candidate there!
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it would be interestng to see saniora go back to his original position as an apprentice.this time under saad.saniora would take fatfat's post as FM's no.1 talkative.ofcourse saad would not give his position as the head of the bloc to saniora.it may cause unease for fufu and susu.this is knowing for sure that the FM will lose the PM post.bye fufu!
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