Lights turn red on Lebanese traffic offences

[loubnaniTO]

I just came back from Beirut, and i have to admit, i feel a little disappointed from Ziad Baroud. I know he's doing his best, and people are generally defending him and saying "they're not letting him work", but that doesn't cut it for me. He is the Interior Minister, and it is his job to do something about it. The excuse was the "elections" before, but now it has been months since the elections, and i haven't seen any crackdowns or even policing on the streets... driving is as crazy as ever, some people respecting traffic lights, many others aren't, speed limits not respected, and people threatened every day by the crazy drivers. On top of that, i was surprised by the daily FIREWORKS in beirut, at first i thought it was EID MAR SOMEONE, but then i realized it was a daily ritual, no need for a reason or an occasion! Do people have that much money to spend??? and what about the noises and the safety? Where is Minister Baroud? it is becoming a big problem, the last day before i left i heard on Manar News that a 3 year old lost his right hand with the fireworks (yes his father is to blame also for giving him explosive fireworks... but stupid parents don't justify a silent government. They said on the news that there is a law against importing, selling and using fireworks without a license... SURE!)

Bottom line, i am disappointed with Minister Baroud. If there are people in the government or the security forces who is not allowing him to work, he should either expose them or resign, indifference should no be acceptable. Unless he owes it to Pres. Sleiman and he does whatever the Pres tells him.... which would be equally disappointing.

[hannaalsayssa]

ziad can not even deploy few police cars to check speed on the tripoli-beirut highway ( the busiest route in lebanon).

this road has become a death trap killing people on daily basis.
all it takes is 2 or 3 speed points or even the presence of a police jeep parked on the road to check mate the idiots who speed soooooooooo much.

but ziad is busy doing sechoir and giving political statements and covering naqell noufouss.

[BOILER]

Originally Posted by jamez29

lebanese breaks the law for one simple reason they feel they have wasta and they are protected

This Wasta can't protect them from getting killed.

[Raficoo]

Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

ziad can not even deploy few police cars to check speed on the tripoli-beirut highway ( the busiest route in lebanon).

this road has become a death trap killing people on daily basis.
all it takes is 2 or 3 speed points or even the presence of a police jeep parked on the road to check mate the idiots who speed soooooooooo much.

but ziad is busy doing sechoir and giving political statements and covering naqell noufouss.

i remember when going from Beirut to Saida.. there is always usually daily speedchecks right before the power plant in the morning, but recently. they've stopped it for no reason. and every1 continues to speed

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by BOILER

This Wasta can't protect them from getting killed.

i am ok if they die all alone
but usually they kill innocent law abiding people.

a cousin of mine was driving under the bridge in bourj hammoud while 2 cars were racing above, one fell and landed on him killing him instantly (23 years) .

the other driver survived and was out in 3 weeks, i am sure feeling all smug and back to his old antics.

PS: this note is for those lebanese who thinks they are gods gift to humanity, by the time the red cross arrived the deceased watch was stolen and so was his wallet.tfeh

[ceaoun]

Originally Posted by jamez29

lebanese breaks the law for one simple reason they feel they have wasta and they are protected

I have noticed that the worst offenders on the Lebanese roads become the perfect citizens once they land on the USA roads.

regards

[Shuyu3i]

well done mr ziad baroud. best minister by far. at least his doing his job.

[CedarJet]

Death on Lebanese roads is a daily occurance. Either one witnesses the accident, or they hear it come up in conversation at some point throughout the day. It's always the same story, shab metel el amar, wahid 3a ahlo, mhandis ad el dene.

The above is mainly twofold;

- Infrastructure
- Lack of respect/maturity

The roads for the most part are not studied carefully, where as instead of protecting the driver, they rather offer the majority of the ingredients for accidents.

The lack of respect is from within each driver. The driving habits often reflect the character of the driver. As a society, very little respect is shown towards others. People driving with the high beams on, those who flash their lights from 5km behind you, those who disregard the traffic lights, those who drink and drive, to name a few, are all people with no respect for others.

The government should apply the proper and correct measures to deal with this major issue. When you have the proper infrastucture, then you can implament rules that force drivers to abide by, and thus, making the roads a safer place than what they are at the moment.

[Mared_3400]

Originally Posted by dodzi

DI's right!

By international standards, a blinking orange traffic light means you can pass through carefully, following the same rules as if there were no traffic lights: "priority to the right" (to the left in countries where people drive the wrong side of the road)!

So if people want to be morons and drive through it too fast or careless, then it's their fault!

Blinking Orange traffic light is not the same as if there were no traffic lights.

It is the blinking red that is the same as if there were not traffic lights.


The difference is:
Blinking Orange: as you said you need to proceed with caution/slowly
Blinking red: you should fully stop before proceeding depending on what type of lighting the opposing one consist of. If the opposing one is blinking orange, then you aren't allowed to proceed as long as car are passing. If the opposing one was blinking red as well, then it should be considered a "stop sign" intersection and whoever arrived to the intersection first will be the first to advance.

Anyway I guess in Lebanon they should do a major upgrade on the new/renewing driving license system where you have to pass the writing exam before being able to take the driving test.

Regards

[FBM]

Originally Posted by Mared_3400

Blinking Orange traffic light is not the same as if there were no traffic lights.

It is the blinking red that is the same as if there were not traffic lights.


The difference is:
Blinking Orange: as you said you need to proceed with caution/slowly
Blinking red: you should fully stop before proceeding depending on what type of lighting the opposing one consist of. If the opposing one is blinking orange, then you aren't allowed to proceed as long as car are passing. If the opposing one was blinking red as well, then it should be considered a "stop sign" intersection and whoever arrived to the intersection first will be the first to advance.

Anyway I guess in Lebanon they should do a major upgrade on the new/renewing driving license system where you have to pass the writing exam before being able to take the driving test.

Regards

The driving test in lebanon is very good, there's a computer and everything... but no one actually does the test, I got my liscence on the same day as the test, all I had to do was show up to the test center go sit on the computer chair and wait for some guy to come and answer all the questions (not only me, this happened to everyone and they even tell the people not to touch the computers), then the actual driving test a baby could do just drive backwards(in a straight line) for like five meters and your done...