Lights turn red on Lebanese traffic offences

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by tinomega

in the US you didnt live 15 years of war and 15 years of occupation..

Yih are you FMer by any chance? This is their reply culte to any question on reform, corruption, theft, to2ssir...

So will we always give those 15 years of occupation as a reason? The war ended 18 years ago, the 15 years of occupation ended 3 years ago, you do not start making people pay for their drinks before building your bar. People in Lebanon rush sometimes to work, yeah they rush, why? Because the roads are shitty, because the most basic rules for building highways, tunnels, bridges, u-turns... are not applied. In the US, even if an idiot wants to cut you from the far right to enter at the far left, he can't because hundreds of meters before, you have the dividing wall. On red lights, the one going straight doesn't stand at the far right and hold the whole line behind him waiting just so he can be at the front of the line, there too, you have dividers o the streets.

No need to mention the flooding, the unbearable traffic every time there is a drop of rain....

So I am not against people respecting the rules, waiting at lights, wearing their seat belts, this is their part of the deal, but the government also has to do its part of the deal, let's drop this "15 years of war" rhetoric or else we will never ever do anything at all.

[CedarJet]

Originally Posted by tinomega

Answer: the lebanese is frustrated outside, when he comes back to Leb, he feels the "freedom" w byeflot..
Sincerly, if we act in Lebanon as we act outside it, we would have a great country!

No justification to people acting and driving like morons. What you're referring to in your post, is someone behaving immaturely and irresponsibly.

What does it mean to yeflot? Drive like a moron? Not obey any rules? not have any common courtesy.

Your analogy is quite ironic. A Lebanese coming from France let's say, feels imprisoned in a country that's civilized, to being free in a country that's not (Lebanon).

Gives us a glimpse on how you view the Lebanese.

[coralie]

yesterday i was in Dora driving my car (seatbelt on of course ) my parents were with me in the car (seat belt on of course ) next to me there was a car the driver did not have the seatbelt on neither the person sitting beside him (who happen to be a ISF wearing proudly his costume) , so i smiled and with my hand i made a sign like hey seatbelt seatbelt .. the ISF looked at me and was like WHAT ??? again i made the same gesture with my hand seatbelt seatbelt showing him mine ... kachar bi wejji and ordered me to move on as if he was saying n2echri mchi ana el dawleh ma khassik mchina my father was like ya 3ein malla good exemple !!! .
le comble is that we arrived at a cross road where another daraki was standing am bi machi el seir and the same car who was infrnt of me now stoped and the 2 guys were talking and laughing with the daraki and when the trafic light turned to green they kept the conversation going as if ma fi hadan warahon le comble enno alla3o and the daraki was waving bye bye w alla ma3kon he did not even notice the 2 men did not have the seatbealt on . if it was a normal person like you and me kenna akalneha zabet ad rasna !

[Canadian]

Why are people asking for the moon ?

The country isn't gonna turn corrupt free overnight, but at least there is some progress.

Coralie, next time why don't you get the guy's license plate are report him?

Try to get a picture too (I'm sure all of Lebanon now has an imbedded camera of 12 MPixels in his cellphone).

[coralie]

Originally Posted by Canadian

Why are people asking for the moon ?

The country isn't gonna turn corrupt free overnight, but at least there is some progress.

Coralie, next time why don't you get the guy's license plate are report him?

Try to get a picture too (I'm sure all of Lebanon now has an imbedded camera of 12 MPixels in his cellphone).

i thought about the license plate ... but come to think about it report it to who ? report it and say what ? the 2 men were not wearing seatbelts ?
do you think any one cares specialy enno the guy with the driver is an ISF . we are not in canada my dear even in canada you can not report a person for not wearing a seatbelt !!!! it is not a crime is it ?

do you think if the daraki standing on the cross road saw me with the cell phone in my hand he would let me go ? ? ken tara2ni zabet w yemkin achatni el cell phone kamen ...

[Canadian]

Originally Posted by coralie

i thought about the license plate ... but come to think about it report it to who ? report it and say what ? the 2 men were not wearing seatbelts ?
do you think any one cares specialy enno the guy with the driver is an ISF . we are not in canada my dear even in canada you can not report a person for not wearing a seatbelt !!!! it is not a crime is it ?

do you think if the daraki standing on the cross road saw me with the cell phone in my hand he would let me go ? ? ken tara2ni zabet w yemkin achatni el cell phone kamen ...

You're right, maybe reporting will go down the drain, but at least you would've done your job.

Report to whom ? The ministry of interior or the closest ISF casern.

As for Canada, well if you have one other witness (someone else than you) you'll win ur case :)
I know Lebanon is far from being there, but we should start somewhere non ?

[Raficoo]

hah...Lebanon... Law enforcement? not anytime soon i might say..

lol i remember one time like 4years ago, i was walking on one street in Beirut. there was 4streets with Traffic lights....ok, so there's one guy who passes a red light, the police officer blows his whistle, and told the guy that he passed a red light, the guy was like yalla yalla i'll be right back... and i was LOL, **** law corruption. i was surprised the officer didn't have the balls to go chase him. caz in Poland if u pass a Red light, either a Camera is gonna flash or Sirens are going off in a second lol

come to think of it, all the Police guys were embarresed to go out on their cars before, caz now they got the Dodge Charger they wanna show off in Public.. Seriously lol whenever im in DT Saida, and every time i see a Charger car, The lights ARE ALWAYS on and the police officer's hand is on the window, heha.. they just wanna look Cool now with their new Toys tkhayyal this is what they're thinking when they pass a large crowd "yea yea that's right haha i got a Dodge charger and you don't nana nanna naaana!"

so if u want them to all go out on the streets you better get them this:




but seriously, to get good enforcement, we gotta get more advanced Cameras on the roads(, not the ones which can be broken easily on a Driveby

and how do cops "stop" ppl here? like follow them with a car or whistle? :P

[coralie]

Originally Posted by Canadian

You're right, maybe reporting will go down the drain, but at least you would've done your job.

Report to whom ? The ministry of interior or the closest ISF casern.

As for Canada, well if you have one other witness (someone else than you) you'll win ur case :)
I know Lebanon is far from being there, but we should start somewhere non ?

i would've done my job ? are you for real ? i will be persecuted LOL... i had a very bad experience so alla yes3edon w yeb3edon !

THIS IS LEBANON . this is not the civilised country where a civilian or a simple citizen can go and report things like this or anything at all, he will be investigated as if he was a criminal . heik el nizam bi hal balad !

[Canadian]

Originally Posted by coralie

i would've done my job ? are you for real ? i will be persecuted LOL... i had a very bad experience so alla yes3edon w yeb3edon !

THIS IS LEBANON . this is not the civilised country where a civilian or a simple citizen can go and report things like this or anything at all, he will be investigated as if he was a criminal . heik el nizam bi hal balad !

The country works from the bottom up, if you're not willing to change, than why would the people in charge do ?

[Ra3ed]

Originally Posted by Ra3ed

Good work from the ministre Baroud indeed

which as i see it something normal. Someone is doing his job , but in country like in lebanon we should say great . in other countries
it's just normal to see someone "doing" the job
One sentence took mostly my attention in the article, a problem lebanon is facing not only in this ministry


Quote:
Several drivers on a recent morning showed outrage when stopped, with some warning officers that they were well-connected and even threatening them.

"Do you realize who my father is?" scoffed one woman stopped for using her cell phone. She still got a ticket

وقع حادث في طرابلس أدى إلى سقوط جريح من عناصر شرطة المدينة، حين رفض نجل النائب بدر ونوس تحرير مخالفة ضبط في حقه وحق أحد مرافقيه. وتطور الرفض إلى إطلاق نار،أصيب على أثره الشرطي بجروح، في حين احتشد عدد من أبناء المدينة أمام مكتب النائب مطالبين إياه بالإستقالة.

"Do you realize who my father is? "

you give me a ticket
i give you a bullet

eh w *aber ya bader