Liberty Front for the end of the armed & non armed palestinian presence in Lebanon

[hannaalsayssa]

yes the palestinians will have

lamm al shemel in lebanon and jebha did not think of thati ssue
if we can apply jebha statement , i am sure we can accept the few palestinians who gets it in lebanon

since the majority will leave us for sure....

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

Habibeh Bejin,

You keep turning around and evading the subject.For the last time i will ask you this:

What Jebha put forward as a proposal,is a legal framework that works in many ways.

In some ways it allows some Palestinians to leave,and in other ways it allows some Palestinians to stay.

FAN only highlighted one side of this legal framework and omitted the other side.

Did he do that on purpose?Was that omission due to ignorance or hypocrisy?

Dude, why do you have to be such a party pooper.. Abou Nader was having another one of those brilliant press releases where he would prep himself for the upcoming elections and you just blew a hole in a masterpiece proposal, is it due to jealousy?

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by Bejin

The Liberty Front omit the other side because the Lebanese code is clear about it. So, it is neither ignorance nor hypocrisy, it is jurisdiction!

Ya Khayyeh

1- the Lebanese code is lower in hierarchy than the constitution.Therefore when you want to apply something that is stated in the constitution,it does not matter whether it is written in a text of law or not.

2-The Lebanese constitution integrates in it the universal declaration of human rights.Therefore,the universal declaration of human rights is higher in hierarchy than any other text of law.(Get back to point 1 to know what it implies)

3-FAN is asking for the implementation of the part of the universal declaration of human rights that allows family re-grouping.

4-The implementation of the part of the universal declaration of human rights that allows family re-grouping,allows some Palestinians to leave,and some Palestinians to stay.

5-Fan only highlighted the side where Palestinians could leave and "ommited" the part where Palestinians could stay.


This is either hypocrisy or ignorance.

If you don't know the right answer,stop turning around,and go do your homework and bring us a rightful answer and post it for us to read.

I will gladly accept an honest omission or an unintentional misunderstanding of the part of the universal declaration of human rights that allows family re-grouping.

This still is far better than turning around the subject and trying to fit the unfitting.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

Dude, why do you have to be such a party pooper.. Abou Nader was having another one of those brilliant press releases where he would prep himself for the upcoming elections and you just blew a hole in a masterpiece proposal, is it due to jealousy?

Can't you see that i'm helping him?...

[Bejin]

Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

yes the palestinians will have

lamm al shemel in lebanon and jebha did not think of thati ssue
if we can apply jebha statement , i am sure we can accept the few palestinians who gets it in lebanon

since the majority will leave us for sure....

hannaalsayssa as always you have even not read neither the title of the statement nor the statement. Next time read it to don't be ridiculous: the Liberty Front wants to put an end to the Palestinian presence in Lebanon, armed and non-armed.

[hannaalsayssa]

I know that
i said der this proposal abou sandalis right
some palestinians will get lebanese citizen
so waht, we would get rid of the majority of them
it is worth it, if we give few under the un law to get read of hundred of thousnad

it is u just refuses to read my posts, when u c my name lollllllllllll....
I have not started on ur neutrality issue, since that release does not mention it yet
just make sure, all the jebha posts are well written and unambiguous....that is all

[Bejin]

1- the Lebanese code is lower in hierarchy than the constitution.Therefore when you want to apply something that is stated in the constitution,it does not matter whether it is written in a text of law or not.

Wrong: Article 6 of the Constitution: "Lebanese nationality and the manner in which it is acquired, retained, and lost is to be determined in accordance with the law."

2-The Lebanese constitution integrates in it the universal declaration of human rights.Therefore,the universal declaration of human rights is higher in hierarchy than any other text of law.(Get back to point 1 to know what it implies)

Again, Article 6 of the Constitution: "Lebanese nationality and the manner in which it is acquired, retained, and lost is to be determined in accordance with the law."

3-FAN is asking for the implementation of the part of the universal declaration of human rights that allows family re-grouping.

Yes for the Palestinians to leave Lebanon.

4-The implementation of the part of the universal declaration of human rights that allows family re-grouping,allows some Palestinians to leave,and some Palestinians to stay.

According to our Constitution and our code, they can not.

5-Fan only highlighted the side where Palestinians could leave and "ommited" the part where Palestinians could stay.

According to our Constitution and our code, they can not.

This is either hypocrisy or ignorance.

It is neither hypocrisy nor ignorance, it is the jurisdiction.

If you don't know the right answer,stop turning around,and go do your homework and bring us a rightful answer and post it for us to read.

I will gladly accept an honest omission or an unintentional misunderstanding of the part of the universal declaration of human rights that allows family re-grouping.

This still is far better than turning around the subject and trying to fit the unfitting.

Next time, read well our Constitution

[Bejin]

Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

I know that
i said der this proposal abou sandalis right
some palestinians will get lebanese citizen
so waht, we would get rid of the majority of them
it is worth it, if we give few under the un law to get read of hundred of thousnad

it is u just refuses to read my posts, when u c my name lollllllllllll....
I have not started on ur neutrality issue, since that release does not mention it yet
just make sure, all the jebha posts are well written and unambiguous....that is all

Next time read the Constitution and read our statements: on 11 november 2008:

واستغربت اختزال النائب سعد الحريري دور الدولة اللبنانية خلال زيارته الى موسكو وحديثه عن تسليح الجيش والاتفاقات الدولية مع الجمهوريات المستحدثة."
جبهة الحرية – مكتب الاعلام

[Abou Sandal]

Bejin,

You cannot even begin to measure the extent of the foolishness that you've just covered yourself in,with your late replies.

Too bad that you chose to play the smartass where you needed to listen and learn.

[Bejin]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

Bejin,

You cannot even begin to measure the extent of the foolishness that you've just covered yourself in,with your late replies.

Too bad that you chose to play the smartass where you needed to listen and learn.

Abou Sandal,

the Lebanese code is lower in hierarchy than the constitution.

Right.

Therefore when you want to apply something that is stated in the constitution,it does not matter whether it is written in a text of law or not.

Right except if the Constitution states, like in the article 6, "Lebanese nationality and the manner in which it is acquired, retained, and lost is to be determined in accordance with the law." So, to apply the "nationality part" stated in the constitution, it matters the Lebanese Code. It can't be clearer.

The Lebanese constitution integrates in it the universal declaration of human rights.Therefore,the universal declaration of human rights is higher in hierarchy than any other text of law.(Get back to point 1 to know what it implies)

The Lebanese constitution does not integrate in it the Universal Declaration of Human Rights: The Constitution states: "Lebanon is also a founding and active member of the United Nations Organization and abides by its covenants and by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights."
That's why General Michel Aoun says: "Il faut une nouvelle charte (assurant les droits de l’homme, et un monde plus sain), et une constitution qui restaure l’Etat, avec 3 pouvoirs : exécutif, législatif et judiciaire." Témoignage sur les Maronites du Liban - CERCLE GRAMSCI
GMA is against Tawtin and is calling for the a new charter assuring the Human Rights! So, GMA is like Fouad Abou Nader and Liberty Front. Hypocrite or ignorant you said?

The implementation of the part of the universal declaration of human rights that allows family re-grouping,allows some Palestinians to leave,and some Palestinians to stay.

Stay as a foreign worker is something and get the nationality is something else.