LF supporter got beaten in Jbeil

[Learned]

Originally Posted by Ataraxia

Actually, you just insulted the forumers here by regarding them uneducated.

Lets face it dude, attempting to defend or justify or even give excuses for the alleged incident isn't very enlightened. X's comment, for example, was wholly unwarranted and inappropriate, and as it has been pointed out, Mark Houwayek himself wouldn't accept it.

[King Rami]

this is BS coming out of the LF website, they said first that they shot at her using guns, and then showed the photos of the car, no gun shots can be seen...

وفي التفاصيل، أن الشابة كيروز تعرضت أثناء عودتها ظهر الاثنين الى جبيل لاطلاق نار من قبل مسلحين يستقلون سيارتي مارسيدس سوداء اللون ويرفعون اعلام "حزب الله" . ثم عمدوا الى قطع الطريق عليها وصدم سيارة كيروز وهي رباعية الدفع من نوع "رنج روفر"،

anyway, hezballah has been in jbeil since 1982, and this is the 1st time we hear such news... it's fabricated, maybe a car holding HA's flag was passing by and the keyrouz girl lost control and blamed it on Hezballah... we all know the LF propaganda machine.

I'm not here to defend hezballah or accuse keyrouz girl, I just want to ask: what kind of human being tries to kill the other if he's putting the picture of geagea on his car? Where is the Black Car of Hezballah? no investigations took place?

(the ones and only dudes who might be able to do such kind of things are the LF... history explains well my point of view)

and one more question: if she's in a bad condition, how the hell did they know that Hezballah guys did this?

[Learned]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

Learned buddy.

Every violent militia attracts thugs and criminals. Its the nature of the beast. That does not in any way mean the militia condones criminal or thuggish behavior, but you cannot tell me it doesn't happen.

As to the kids I saw yesterday, I'm sure they are Shiites, considering the area they were in, and the fact that they are fond of Hizbullah, but my question to you is 'why weren't they posting pictures of 'berri'', because the violent element of Hizbullah provides the thrill factor, many thugs tend to look upto.

Because Berri's support among Shi'as these days is limited to those families that have ties to the party, or the villages/towns that still have strong Amal loyalties. In all probability, those kids do not fall into that category. Again, I reject the idea that it has anything to do with Hezbollah attracting thugs and criminals, and I disagree with your contention that Hezbollah represents a "violent militia". In fact, the common perception is that AMAL is much more of a violent militia than HA is.

[sanfour]

I hope that she heals soon. i also hope that the investigation
clarifies everything.

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by sanfour

I hope that she heals soon. i also hope that the investigation
clarifies everything.

what is wrong with you people,
ye3i you expect any clear statement from aboul zizz led police???

law bedda tshtatti ghaymet.

[agnostic]

Originally Posted by agnostic

HA supporters have also daughters, sisters and mothers. And I hope HA pays attention and takes care of this issue that is used to bash HA supporters and promote anti-Aoun propaganda.

if the story is true we have several shia people involved which means that they can be easily identified and caught. In this case, we should easily find the culprits and ask to hang them. Otherwise, if the story is fake those sick people who are spreading these lies should be arrested and we should also ask to hang them instead.

But where are the FPM politicians in particular the MPs of the district of JBail where the attack is supposed to have happened. these deputies have to take care of this issue and show it. It is about a serious alleged electoral crime that happened the day of their election.

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From MTV

هل أصبح رفع صورة للدكتور سمير جعجع والشيهد بيار الجميل جريمة تستحق محاولة القتل؟ فقد تعرضت الشابة مايا كيروز (24 سنة) لاعتداء عند جسر الفيدار على اوتوستراد جبيل. وفي التفاصيل، أن الشابة كيروز تعرضت أثناء عودتها ظهر الاثنين الى جبيل لاطلاق نار من قبل مسلحين يستقلون سيارتي مارسيدس سوداء اللون ويرفعون اعلام "حزب الله" . ثم عمدوا الى قطع الطريق عليها وصدم سيارة كيروز وهي رباعية الدفع من نوع "رنج روفر"، قبل ان يدفعوا بها الى الهاوية. ما تسبب باندلاع حريق داخل السيارة وتعرض كيروز لاضرار جسدية كبيرة، ووضعها الصحي حرج وهي تخضع للعلاج في مستشفى الجيعتاوي وبحاجة الى دم من فئة (b+).

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From Lorient Lejour



Maya Keyrouz sur son lit d’hôpital.

Les images retransmises par la MTV font froid dans le dos. Maya Keyrouz, 28 ans, est brûlée au quatrième degré, pratiquement partout et notamment sur son visage. Elle a été admise dimanche soir au Centre des grands brûlés de l’Hôpital orthodoxe à Achrafieh, après avoir subi une agression barbare de la part de partisans armés du Hezbollah sur l’autoroute de Fidar, dans le caza de Jbeil.
« Une première voiture, une grosse Mercedes, m’a fait une queue de poisson, avant qu’une deuxième ne me bloque sur ma gauche. Le drapeau du Hezbollah flottait par les portières des deux voitures, qui ont joué avec mon véhicule comme avec un ballon de football ; je voulais démarrer, ils ralentissaient, j’étais totalement prisonnière, jusqu’à ce qu’ils sortent leurs armes et qu’ils commencent à tirer sur mon 4×4… »
Le témoignage de la jeune femme, martyrisée à cause du portrait d’un candidat qu’elle avait collé sur la vitre de son véhicule, a été très court. Celui de son père l’a parfaitement complété : « Marie était déterminée à voter, parce qu’elle aime la vie et parce qu’elle aime son pays. Voilà ce qui lui est arrivé », a-t-il simplement résumé.

Notice that MTV says that it happened monday afternoon while L'orient-Le-Jour says that the girl was admitted to hospital Jeitawi one day before (sunday evening).

[Greg Davis]

Originally Posted by X

ma3a enno the whole report is well off the reality, but the truth is, when people refused FPM's peaceful approach toward Hezbollah and preferred the violent approach, they should deal with what they have done

If verbally refusing to accept a foreign sponsored militia, who solely determines the fate of our nation, and its stability is a violent approach, and for an innocent girl to deal with getting shot at and ridden off the road for supporting such principles, and for you to condone such behaviour, I'm not sure Lebanon is even worth while salvaging.

[Ataraxia]

Originally Posted by Learned

Lets face it dude, attempting to defend or justify or even give excuses for the alleged incident isn't very enlightened. X's comment, for example, was wholly unwarranted and inappropriate, and as it has been pointed out, Mark Houwayek himself wouldn't accept it.

That doesn't mean they are uneducated. It means they are being irrational for emotional reasons. That is why I did try to reason with them if you take a look back at my posts.

[Ataraxia]

Originally Posted by agnostic

Notice that MTV says that it happened monday afternoon while L'orient-Le-Jour says that the girl was admitted to hospital Jeitawi one day before (sunday evening).

Probably MTV were trying to take it a step further and make it more believable by portraying the incident as a reply to the elections loss in Lebanon.

[agnostic]

it is with repeating such propaganda that zahra and gemayel kids could be elected.