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If it is about a picture, pictures can be tentalised , heck i can make a picture of you and bush drinking martiny at Mcdonalds, but videos it's hard much harder to temper with, like the one showing JA3JA3 making a comforting visit to Demascus in 1994 to Hafez el Asad to condole his Son's death Basel , now that's one precious site :D, any comment on that ? :)
Yes like the pictures that GMA used showing an FL guy with an AK47 during the 1st coup d'etat demo that was done, knowing that this guy was a Hezb member during the 2006 war against Israel.

The point is that GMA lied or covered any visit that he done previously in Syria making us believe that this was his 1st ever visit.

Anyway, this is not the point, the point is that we voted GMA in 2005 because he stood fermly against the 4 party aliance during the 2005 elections and against the illegal weapons of Hezb and their alliance with terrorist countries such as Iran and Syrian and against the return of the Syrian hegemony after 2005, now we see that all he have faught against he is doing the opposite.

Now we want our votes back!!!!
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Yes like the pictures that GMA used showing an FL guy with an AK47 during the 1st coup d'etat demo that was done, knowing that this guy was a Hezb member during the 2006 war against Israel.

The point is that GMA lied or covered any visit that he done previously in Syria making us believe that this was his 1st ever visit.

Anyway, this is not the point, the point is that we voted GMA in 2005 because he stood fermly against the 4 party aliance during the 2005 elections and against the illegal weapons of Hezb and their alliance with terrorist countries such as Iran and Syrian and against the return of the Syrian hegemony after 2005, now we see that all he have faught against he is doing the opposite.

Now we want our votes back!!!!

go give ur votes for the new saviors of lebanon, Jumblat, Geagea and Hariri....

7esh trabe7na jmeeleh....but if u nag after that like how we did pre 2005 and after that don't blame other than yourself...
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Yes like the pictures that GMA used showing an FL guy with an AK47 during the 1st coup d'etat demo that was done, knowing that this guy was a Hezb member during the 2006 war against Israel.

The point is that GMA lied or covered any visit that he done previously in Syria making us believe that this was his 1st ever visit.

Anyway, this is not the point, the point is that we voted GMA in 2005 because he stood fermly against the 4 party aliance during the 2005 elections and against the illegal weapons of Hezb and their alliance with terrorist countries such as Iran and Syrian and against the return of the Syrian hegemony after 2005, now we see that all he have faught against he is doing the opposite.

Now we want our votes back!!!!
that picture was a cleaver act of misdeception from an LFer , first of all, because the LF made a conference about it like 1 hour or so after the pic was shown and the pic was Authenticated by a well known newspaper, so it was clearly an act of misdeception to vandelize GMA'S integrity amoung his followers and fellow citizens. Secondly, i thought that was your subject and you wanted comments on that visit , yet suddenly you changed the subject. Thirdly, our weapons are to protect ourselves from the enemy where our country failed to protect, if our army is able to protect us from Israel we'll be glad to hand down our weapon untill then stop nagging about the weapons and start thinking about a defense strategy to help protect OUR ( YOU AND ME) country, if that is your concern which i doubt.
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Yes like the pictures that GMA used showing an FL guy with an AK47 during the 1st coup d'etat demo that was done, knowing that this guy was a Hezb member during the 2006 war against Israel.

The point is that GMA lied or covered any visit that he done previously in Syria making us believe that this was his 1st ever visit.

Anyway, this is not the point, the point is that we voted GMA in 2005 because he stood fermly against the 4 party aliance during the 2005 elections and against the illegal weapons of Hezb and their alliance with terrorist countries such as Iran and Syrian and against the return of the Syrian hegemony after 2005, now we see that all he have faught against he is doing the opposite.

Now we want our votes back!!!!
regarding the photo of lf that is HA. It was a mistake and acknowledged by FPM even before LF brought this issue up.
FPM made a mistake back than and didn't check the photo validity they received.

About GMA, GMA never lied about visiting Syria. It is your problem if you don't correctly follow the news nor reading history!

regarding your vote...well u can take it back anytime u want...
it is also you problem if you thought FPM is another modern version of LF and you voted for this reason
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that picture was a cleaver act of misdeception from an LFer , first of all, because the LF made a conference about it like 1 hour or so after the pic was shown and the pic was Authenticated by a well known newspaper, so it was clearly an act of misdeception to vandelize GMA'S integrity amoung his followers and fellow citizens. Secondly, i thought that was your subject and you wanted comments on that visit , yet suddenly you changed the subject. Thirdly, our weapons are to protect ourselves from the enemy where our country failed to protect, if our army is able to protect us from Israel we'll be glad to hand down our weapon untill then stop nagging about the weapons and start thinking about a defense strategy to help protect OUR ( YOU AND ME) country, if that is your concern which i doubt.
Ya habibeh i am from those who are against the Hezb ideology but i truly believe that Hezb weapons are there to fight Israel and protect the south, but the problem is that i do not feel that those weapons are there to protect all lebanon from any aggression.

Would the weapons of Hezb protect us incase Syria invade us again?

there is another issue that i am against and it is that Hezb shouldn't have the exclusivity of carrying weapons to defend Lebanon. Incase Hezb wants to keep its weapons and use them independetly without asking the gorvernment or any other autority, then in this case FPM, PSP, FL, Future... should also be part of the resistence and have missiles and hightech weapons and training camps and independent communication system, and in this case we will have to disolve the Lebanese Army and integrate them inside each independent unit.

Secondly, if Hezb weapons are bringing protection to the South of Lebanon, and this i doubt about it as we have seen what Israel is capable when it destroyed most of the southern villages, i do not trust those weapons specially after what happened last May. Those weapons have become a tool in the hands of Iran and Syria to fight the anti syrians and iranians of Lebanon.

As a Lebanese i do not have any problem accepting Hezb people, but i do have problems accepting Syria, Iran and Israel.
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Would the weapons of Hezb protect us incase Syria invade us again?

there is another issue that i am against and it is that Hezb shouldn't have the exclusivity of carrying weapons to defend Lebanon. Incase Hezb wants to keep its weapons and use them independetly without asking the gorvernment or any other autority, then in this case FPM, PSP, FL, Future... should also be part of the resistence and have missiles and hightech weapons and training camps and independent communication system, and in this case we will have to disolve the Lebanese Army and integrate them inside each independent unit.
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Ya habibeh i am from those who are against the Hezb ideology but i truly believe that Hezb weapons are there to fight Israel and protect the south, but the problem is that i do not feel that those weapons are there to protect all lebanon from any aggression.

Would the weapons of Hezb protect us incase Syria invade us again?

there is another issue that i am against and it is that Hezb shouldn't have the exclusivity of carrying weapons to defend Lebanon. Incase Hezb wants to keep its weapons and use them independetly without asking the gorvernment or any other autority, then in this case FPM, PSP, FL, Future... should also be part of the resistence and have missiles and hightech weapons and training camps and independent communication system, and in this case we will have to disolve the Lebanese Army and integrate them inside each independent unit.

Secondly, if Hezb weapons are bringing protection to the South of Lebanon, and this i doubt about it as we have seen what Israel is capable when it destroyed most of the southern villages, i do not trust those weapons specially after what happened last May. Those weapons have become a tool in the hands of Iran and Syria to fight the anti syrians and iranians of Lebanon.

As a Lebanese i do not have any problem accepting Hezb people, but i do have problems accepting Syria, Iran and Israel.
I rest my case
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Yes like the pictures that GMA used showing an FL guy with an AK47 during the 1st coup d'etat demo that was done, knowing that this guy was a Hezb member during the 2006 war against Israel.
u can keep milking this story as much as u want without checking the quality of the milk, but u will still have lots of trouble selling ur produce to anyone.

if gma wanted to use doctored photos he would have used something else than a hizbullah photo as reference.

gma fell for a bait that the LFers put out, how that means that he 'made a fake foto' is beyond me.. but then again, not everybody drinks tainted milk to see things ur way.
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I rest my case
What case do u rest??

i think u did not understand what i was trying to say.

What i was saying is that i do believe that Hezb weapons are here to fight Israel and this is one of their goals, but i do not believe in their efficency against such an army that have a supperiotrity and advence weapons, specially that they control the air, and only by using their planes they destroyed 80% of Lebanon resources during the 2006 war.

So that means that the weapons of Hezb have limited effect, therefore it is better not to keep them as they can bring us more troubles then something good, and also coz there is no unity in Lebanon around the fact that Hezb should have weapons.
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hey guys

any comments you have on the pictures that the fl website have posted about aoun posing and smilling with the ennemy (syria) in 1985?

I did not know how to include the pictures here, but if someone can go on the fl website and copy past it here so everybody can see them.

Aoun seemed very relaxed and joyfull during that visit of "taarouf" in 1985 in the middle of the lebanese war when the syrians were killing our people.

Any comments?
إذا بتحبوا تفهموا افهموا إنّو
الجنرال عون وين ما راح لا بيبيع ولا بيشتري ولا بينشرى ولا بينباع
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