LF and Kataeb recruiting: is it a zero-sum game?

[Bala Habal]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

The more radical you are,the more you win.That's the race between LF and Kataeb.

Now one might think:Hey,it's too easy,LF will obviously win ultimately.They are crazy lunatics.

But no.This is not enough.Kataeb invented a higher dimension for distinction against LF:Snobism.

Here is how it works:Imagine a racist who sees all kind of humans inferior to him.Wow that's quiet extremist,you might think.Who can beat this?

Well, there is even worse:There is the one who considers himself the most refined and classy among the racists,thus snobs them all and views them as inferiors.

Just like someone in Germany of the thirties,who considered himself of a race,superior to Hitler's Aryan race.

Yeap,which is why Kataebists often denigrate LFers and their low standards and manners,describing them as stupid "bulldogs",or "bodyguards",while describing themselves as the "Elite" (Understand:"masters")

Yalla...Waiting for the next battle,and let's test once again,Darwin's theories.

You had me on your side until the very end. This has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with Darwin's theory (I am guessing you mean his theory of descent with modification by means of natural selection... or do you mean the theory of human origins and our closeness to the chimpanzee )

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by Bala Habal

You had me on your side until the very end. This has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with Darwin's theory (I am guessing you mean his theory of descent with modification by means of natural selection... or do you mean the theory of human origins and our closeness to the chimpanzee )

Naa... I just had in mind a simple idea for having a winner:"Survival of the fittest"

[zodiac]

In few words: Kataeb and Lf (heyde 3eyne w heyde 3ayne)
Im talking in the most personal point of view that many Lfer or kataeb members do not share!
I do not find any difference whatsoever between the LF and Kataeb, LF was founded by BG to make a more solid christian resistance, a more organized one and the Kataeb stayed the political shield for the new military organization..
Read anything related to that Era you will find that they were the same, look at all the old pics.. etc..
About today, well after BG death and PG death and the many intifadas, LF took an almost independant path.. but in the end i personally do not find any difference!

[hannaalsayssa]

thx for confrming our views
heyde 3ei wa heyde 3ein
wal altnein la 3ein sa3doun..

[ElieCedar]

Respectfully, None of the replies seem to know much about some of the key differences between the LF and Kateab parties. The key common denominator between them is BG, and after BG's death they each took a different path. Having being raised in a Chamounist home, many like me where attracted to serve in the LF for the ideals, discipline, political project, and commitment to the cause and our Christian martyrs.

But of course, you don't need to listen to me. I have only spent 25 years in serving the LF. There are better sources on this forum/thread, many of them are Marada and Hizbullah supporters...they should know more because they have Lebanon's interest at heart (wink)!!!
Elie

[Bala Habal]

Originally Posted by ElieCedar

Respectfully, None of the replies seem to know much about some of the key differences between the LF and Kateab parties. The key common denominator between them is BG, and after BG's death they each took a different path. Having being raised in a Chamounist home, many like me where attracted to serve in the LF for the ideals, discipline, political project, and commitment to the cause and our Christian martyrs.

But of course, you don't need to listen to me. I have only spent 25 years in serving the LF. There are better sources in this forum/thread, many of them are Marada and Hizbullah supporters...they should know more because they have Lebanon's interest at heart (wink)!!!
Elie

Go ahead then, please answer my questions in the original post. I specifically asked for someone like you to share their insights. Thanks!

[Dark Angel]

Originally Posted by ElieCedar

Respectfully, None of the replies seem to know much about some of the key differences between the LF and Kateab parties. The key common denominator between them is BG, and after BG's death they each took a different path. Having being raised in a Chamounist home, many like me where attracted to serve in the LF for the ideals, discipline, political project, and commitment to the cause and our Christian martyrs.

But of course, you don't need to listen to me. I have only spent 25 years in serving the LF. There are better sources on this forum/thread, many of them are Marada and Hizbullah supporters...they should know more because they have Lebanon's interest at heart (wink)!!!
Elie

and i thought that many of you were attracted to serve in the LF after 400 of your fellow chamounists were thrown off from roof tops and balconies in tabarja, in a candid act of solidarity with the Christian cause from the phalanges.

if memory serves me right, it was camil chamoun who decided to dissolve the noumour and instructed them to serve under bachir; since camil chamoun wasn't an idiot, and he prefered to serve the cause rather than avenge his deflated ego and wounded pride.

so i really dont know what "ideals, discipline, political project, and commitment to the cause" you are babbling about here, but again the way you manipulate your own perception is nothing short of funny.

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by ElieCedar

Respectfully, None of the replies seem to know much about some of the key differences between the LF and Kateab parties. The key common denominator between them is BG, and after BG's death they each took a different path. Having being raised in a Chamounist home, many like me where attracted to serve in the LF for the ideals, discipline, political project, and commitment to the cause and our Christian martyrs.

But of course, you don't need to listen to me. I have only spent 25 years in serving the LF. There are better sources on this forum/thread, many of them are Marada and Hizbullah supporters...they should know more because they have Lebanon's interest at heart (wink)!!!
Elie

so how many sa[botage [u guys did in training and after
u know like rambo 3amchit did.
since it seems it ays to be a victim, in your minds or sg mind at least LOLLLLLLLLLLL.
bachir killed benefit from it
loss[ at jabal benefit too
asss[ kicked in[ sayda[ dammour the better
amin son dead, ammoune milks it
forward to amchit, history with u guys the same
but u never learn and will always lose

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by ElieCedar

I have only spent 25 years in serving the LF.

Wow!!...25 years?

Good,then you're very well placed to tell us where the LF stands in the matters raised by DA.

Here:

Originally Posted by Dark Angel

"ideals, discipline, political project, and commitment to the cause"

And we might also appreciate if you can summarize the differences between LF and Kataeb,on these issues,should they exist at the first place of course.

And please,try to avoid the usual big titles and empty slogans.It doesn't work anymore.

[Greg Davis]

I'm curious

Those of you who have a deep hatred toward both the Lebanese Forces and the Kataeb, can you please tell me where you differ in ideals and principles to the parties.
Please don't say they're thugs and you hate the party leaders, because those two reasons are not enough. Not enough at a time that their alternative has foregone the fundamentals the constituents hold dear, and opted to stratecially ally himself with Regional powers and national militias that do not coincide with the idealogy of even the FPM itself.

This question is to the true FPM supporters,[]