Lebanon's quality of life

[Wolf]

Join the club GMA forever
I do not live there either, and this report does not make sense to me too.

Qualité de vie : Beyrouth à la 175e place mondiale et 16e régionale
Selon l’enquête menée par le consultant Mercer Human Resource dans 215 villes de par le monde et citée par le bulletin de la Banque Byblos, le Liban occupe la 175e place mondiale en termes de qualité de vie et la 16e place parmi 21 pays de la région du Moyen-Orient et d’Afrique du Nord. Dans le précédent rapport, Beyrouth avait été classé à la 171e place mondiale et 15e régionale.
Cette étude évalue la qualité de vie dans les différentes villes du monde à partir de 39 composantes réparties en 10 catégories : politique, économique, socioculturelle, logement, loisirs, soins de santé, éducation, transports et autres services publics. Le Liban a obtenu un score de 51,9 points contre 53,3 l’an dernier. Ce score est inférieur à la moyenne mondiale qui se situe à 76,4 points ainsi qu’aux moyennes régionale et arabe qui sont respectivement de 61,6 et de 61,2 points. Vienne arrive en tête du classement avec un score de 108,6 points, Bagdad en dernière position, alors Qualité de vie : Beyrouth à la 175e place mondiale et 16e régionale
Selon l’enquête menée par le consultant Mercer Human Resource dans 215 villes de par le monde et citée par le bulletin de la Banque Byblos, le Liban occupe la 175e place mondiale en termes de qualité de vie et la 16e place parmi 21 pays de la région du Moyen-Orient et d’Afrique du Nord. Dans le précédent rapport, Beyrouth avait été classé à la 171e place mondiale et 15e régionale.
Cette étude évalue la qualité de vie dans les différentes villes du monde à partir de 39 composantes réparties en 10 catégories : politique, économique, socioculturelle, logement, loisirs, soins de santé, éducation, transports et autres services publics. Le Liban a obtenu un score de 51,9 points contre 53,3 l’an dernier. Ce score est inférieur à la moyenne mondiale qui se situe à 76,4 points ainsi qu’aux moyennes régionale et arabe qui sont respectivement de 61,6 et de 61,2 points. Vienne arrive en tête du classement avec un score de 108,6 points, Bagdad en dernière position, alors que New York constitue la ville de référence avec 100 points.Cette étude aide les multinationales à fixer les indemnités de leurs employés expatriés.
.Cette étude aide les multinationales à fixer les indemnités de leurs employés expatriés.

How on earth someone can compare New York to Beirut.

[joe tayyar]

I also dont believe in this chart,we cant compare lebanon to other countries in the chart.
I will take into consideration the difference in civilization and traditions and the way of living.
On the other hand, i believe that quality of living in lebanon is becoming sh!t day by day.
Unfortunatly in lebanon if you dont have money, you are not qualified to live

[Wolf]

These guys whoever made the surevy "Mercer Human Resource ", put Montreal as top five cities in the americas, man this is the biggest joke ever. I Live in Montreal and it is becoming a dump place of the americas.

So I wouldn't count on this report.


Mercer's 2009 Quality of Living survey highlights

[Mr Watani]

Originally Posted by Wolf

These guys whoever made the surevy "Mercer Human Resource ", put Montreal as top five cities in the americas, man this is the biggest joke ever. I Live in Montreal and it is becoming a dump place of the americas.

So I wouldn't count on this report.


Mercer's 2009 Quality of Living survey highlights

lol it depends where you live in Montreal
i was there last month there are some areas like heaven and few poor areas so when they survey the city they count every thing bad and good areas
but also i can not comment at the report maybe right or maybe not

[Orange angel]

Originally Posted by CarlosSantana

Well, I do not think you really mean that citizens cannot do much. Do you?
Of course citizens can do much IF THEY HAVE THE WILL TO DO. Our major problem (as I see it) is that most of us have a clear overview about our bad political and social system, but none of us do anything about it. If you and me and our neighbor decides to make change then we can do it ( Sounds like Obama's motto, hehe).

Take a hypothetical example; we are now a group of citizens discussing this matter in this forum, we point out some bad and good things and probably complain about the bad things and some of us might suggest a good suggestion to improve/correct a bad thing in our society or in our political system.
Let us say that next month there will be elections, I can assure you that MOST of us will elect the leaders that "we are used to elect" no matter what. We do not ask the candidates questions that are of our concern, such as school politics, healthcare, kindergarden, infrastructure in our city/village, etc etc.......

Each of us has a "heart case" that is important to him/her, after discussion, I can elect the candidate that provide a solution to "my problem". For me, my heart case is the education. I think our educational system is not good enough and it is extremely expensive for the average family. I will elect the candidate that present his view in this matter and provide a solution that I can agree upon.
I might elect an LF candidate if his/her vision will solve the education problem, though I do not agree with LF in other issues. I do not have to elect FPM candidate if this candidate vision does not provide a solution for the problem. Of course, if you have several "heart cases" then it might be difficult to find a candidate from one political party that covers all your case, then you have to prioritize your cases and decide after prioritizing. In general, there is no "perfect" political party, most parties have pros and cons.

If we have the will to improve our country then we should ask them such critical questions and we can decide who to elect after receiving their answers. On the nest elections, we can drop them out if they fail to deliver.

Our media (TV, radio, newspapers,...) should play a main role in thie issue and they have the responsibility to educate people in this direction. If the journalists interview a candidate on the TV and ask him/her some critical questions about his/her visions in the different sectors, then people will be able to differentiate between the candidates and choose the "correct" one.

Everything you're saying is true and very idealistic and i'd say i agree with you IF:
1- Any of our politicians was trustworthy enough for us to believe his/her promises
2- Corruption and selfishness weren't raging in the country

[Dalzi]

Living conditions are very bad in Lebanon. I mean where do we start from! It's corrupt, there are no jobs, wages are very low compared to living expenses, the basic needs like water and electricity are not available to everyone, there is no social security, pension, health insurance, 'proper' free education...etc What's so freaking good about it? Going out and having fun?

When living conditions are measured and compared every little detail is taken into consideration. We don't even have electricity... go figure...

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by Wolf

These guys whoever made the surevy "Mercer Human Resource ", put Montreal as top five cities in the americas, man this is the biggest joke ever. I Live in Montreal and it is becoming a dump place of the americas.

So I wouldn't count on this report.


Mercer's 2009 Quality of Living survey highlights

It is based on access to health, salaries vs expenses, access to transportation, cleanliness of the atmosphere, access to parks, access to education, equality of the sexes, equality of human beings from different races, and montreal in all that beats many cities, so what is so surprising to you?

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by joe tayyar

I also dont believe in this chart,we cant compare lebanon to other countries in the chart.
I will take into consideration the difference in civilization and traditions and the way of living.
On the other hand, i believe that quality of living in lebanon is becoming sh!t day by day.
Unfortunatly in lebanon if you dont have money, you are not qualified to live

You have to understand the purpose of the study, as Mercer clearly states, its purpose is "Cette étude aide les multinationales à fixer les indemnités de leurs employés expatriés."

so there is a compensation for every country, they take what you are supposed to save in your home country add an amount to it to cover the difference in expenses in the country you go to, then they taxes so you can end up saving the same with the same style of living, then there is something they can't compensate for directly that is the hardship and the risk, for instance no matter what beautiful palace they give you in iraq you are still prone to attacks.
This again is compensated by money based on a different chart than the basket chart where new york counts as being the cutoff number of 100.

[shadow1]

Originally Posted by dodzi

All myths have fallen, and still need to fall amongst Lebanese. We are so in love with ourselves and believe we are the best in the region: an oasis of democracy, freedom, and civilization, in a region that has none!

However, facts come hit us in the face right at the moment that we're smelling the farts of our own asses:



Source

This is not a myth, just a wake up call. Our country isn't perfect. Far from it: We're worst than Damascus and just slightly better than Teheran. KSA, even Libya is better than us!

But we keep electing the same morons that made us this way!

We elect them to only curse the hell out of them the morning after.
Why all of a sudden this burst of negativity about our beloved wretched country?
Being ever so positive, I take comfort in the fact that we are better than Khartoum and Sanaa, though I must admit I feel slightly irritated that Djibouti beat us.

I dont care what anyone says and what those studies reveal. Only few months back Beirut came no 3 on the list of party towns in the world. That alone should be enough reason to sustain our pride until the day of judgement and the rest is inconsequential details for amateurish chartists and jealous people.

Will Riyad ever make it to the top one hundered of party towns? No.
Will Djibouti ever overtake us in terms of diversity and expensive restaurants ? No
Will Tripoli ever outdo us in class and sophistication? Not in a million year.
Will Djedda ever boast a similar number of French speaking creatures? I would think not.
We are what we are, the chosen people. If we hadnt invented civilisation and exported it to the world, the world would still be in its savage state.

If we hadnt invented the Alphabet (whoever invented this story about us, anyway) they'd still be drawing pictures to express their feelings and the world of literature and poetry would be non-existant.

let's shed all this negativity and take pride in what we are. Isnt it just enough being Lebanese?

[dodzi]

Originally Posted by shadow1

We elect them to only curse the hell out of them the morning after.
Why all of a sudden this burst of negativity about our beloved wretched country?
Being ever so positive, I take comfort in the fact that we are better than Khartoum and Sanaa though I must admit I feel slightly irritated that Djibouti beat us.
I dont care what anyone says and what those studies reveal. Only few months back Beirut came no 3 on the list of party towns in the world. That alone should be enough reason to sustain our pride until the day of judgement and the rest is inconsequential details for amateurish chartists and jealous people.
Will Riyad ever make it to the top one hundered of party towns? No.
Will Djibouti ever overtake us in terms of diversity and expensive restaurants ? No
Will Tripoli ever outdo us in class and sophistication? Not in a million year.
Will Djedda ever boast a similar number of French speaking creatures? I would think not.
We are what we are, the chosen people. If we hadnt invented civilisation and exported it to the world, the world would still be in its savage state.
If we hadnt invented the Alphabet (whoever invented this story about us, anyway) they'd still be drawing pictures to express their feelings and the world of literature and poetry would be non-existant.

let's shed all this negativity and take pride in what we are. Isnt it just enough being Lebanese?

Dude, are you for real? I mean seriously!

So according to your standards, Beirut's amongst the best cities in the world, because you can party as much as you want, and you can eat any kind of food you want... You seriously should come up with your own ranking and try having it published!

Also, what's with this "we invented and exported civilization"? Are you serious? First of all who's we? "You, me and other Lebanese" we? The alphabet was invented 5000 years ago by some Phoenician. WE invented nothing!

And we certainly export nothing! Our trade industry basically relies on having cargo ships arrive in Beirut so goods could go further to the east!

Civilization? My a**!! Try doing business with a Lebanese. Try getting a decent job with decent hours, decent salary a decent employer and superior. Try using the judicial system in case you get ****ed, whether financially or literally!

Nothing works in Lebanon. Business, politics, the administration, employment, industry, traffic, justice... nothing! And you pretend "we" exported civilization! Well good luck on the next 5000 years!