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Default Lebanon needs new political parties - 4th April 2009

Lebanon has more than 100 political organizations .
Most of the strong parties or movements belong to 8 March coalition or to 14 March coalition .
Most of the parties are sectarian parties ,except SSNP,Communist party,People's party,the Armenian parties,and other few parties.
My point is that many people complain about the sectarianism of the Lebanese parties ,and very few notice that the main political movements or parties are led by one person or one family.Thus ,the leaders of these parties/movements are always elected as the leaders of their respective parties/movements ,to mention some of them :Saad Hariri,Walid Junblatt,Samir Ja3ja3,Amin Gemayel,Michel Aoun,Nabih Berri,Sleiman Frangieh,Talal Arslan,etc....
Why do you people join parties/movements where you will always be the follower of the leader? Where is the democracy in that?
Lebanon will not be a democratic civilized country ,until this structure is abolished.
Lebanon is not run by political parties unfortuneatly ,it is led by feudal lords ,who gather sectarian people around them and pretend that they are a political party.And all of the supporters chant bel rou7 beddam mnftik ya za3im,which reminds me Bashar Assad,Sadddam Hussein and the Baath system .
If you want a democratic Lebanon you must have a healthy political structure ,unless you will be like the other Arab countries.
Lebanon needs a revolution !
Stop following your feudal leaders ("za3ims") like sheeps wether they were right or wrong ,go and elect new people as your party/movement leaders ,forget about political/feudal families (Sham3oun,Karame,Frangieh,Edde,Gemayel,etc..)

I believe that this political feudalism issue is more dangerous than the sectarianism ,though both of them are wrong .
Before electing the members of the new parliament ,learn how to elect the head of your own party ,and stop following the za3im !
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Lebanon has more than 100 political organizations .
Most of the strong parties or movements belong to 8 March coalition or to 14 March coalition .
Most of the parties are sectarian parties ,except SSNP,Communist party,People's party,the Armenian parties,and other few parties.
My point is that many people complain about the sectarianism of the Lebanese parties ,and very few notice that the main political movements or parties are led by one person or one family.Thus ,the leaders of these parties/movements are always elected as the leaders of their respective parties/movements ,to mention some of them :Saad Hariri,Walid Junblatt,Samir Ja3ja3,Amin Gemayel,Michel Aoun,Nabih Berri,Sleiman Frangieh,Talal Arslan,etc....
Why do you people join parties/movements where you will always be the follower of the leader? Where is the democracy in that?
Lebanon will not be a democratic civilized country ,until this structure is abolished.
Lebanon is not run by political parties unfortuneatly ,it is led by feudal lords ,who gather sectarian people around them and pretend that they are a political party.And all of the supporters chant bel rou7 beddam mnftik ya za3im,which reminds me Bashar Assad,Sadddam Hussein and the Baath system .
If you want a democratic Lebanon you must have a healthy political structure ,unless you will be like the other Arab countries.
Lebanon needs a revolution !
Stop following your feudal leaders ("za3ims") like sheeps wether they were right or wrong ,go and elect new people as your party/movement leaders ,forget about political/feudal families (Sham3oun,Karame,Frangieh,Edde,Gemayel,etc..)

I believe that this political feudalism issue is more dangerous than the sectarianism ,though both of them are wrong .
Before electing the members of the new parliament ,learn how to elect the head of your own party ,and stop following the za3im !
An Armenian party that is secular? kif hay, ma fhemet...
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How is an Armenian party not a "sectarian" party? That's like a sect within a sect.
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Armenian Party not sectarian lol..that must be a joke, or your probably Armenian so that might explain it..
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just to note lebanon has some few new party like FPM and i think its the newest one a part tajadod and these puppets
but to let the lebanese politics continue without any problems we should remove one party: LEBANESE FORCES!! (yaret)
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You forgot to mention 11 march party and all these people who speak out with no taste and direction.The bottom line in here is clearly that all the sectarian parties are surrounded with an aura of veneration and reverance in which nobody dares to oppose them,while all the other secular groups are minor as their base is no more than few hunderds.Whether you like it or not,this is the reality that is unfortunately unchangable in Lebanon.
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The centrist candidates are as non-sectarian as the Armenian parties!
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An Armenian party that is secular? kif hay, ma fhemet...
The 3 Armenian parties are laic parties(religion away from politics) .They are Armenian national parties ,which means that wherever there are Armenians in any part of the world there are these parties.And coincidently in Lebanon the Armenians are categorized in 3 sects (Armenian apostolic,Armenian Catholic,Armenian Evangelist).
For example (let's say)an Armenian catholic can be the president of Ramgavar party ,but a Sunii Muslim can't be a leader in Amal or Hezballa ,for example.
Therefore ,only in Lebanon these parties can be categorized as sectarian parties ,because the Armenians are a part of the Armenian Diaspora.
Anyways ,this issue is out of the thread topic.
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just to note lebanon has some few new party like FPM and i think its the newest one a part tajadod and these puppets
but to let the lebanese politics continue without any problems we should remove one party: LEBANESE FORCES!! (yaret)
Dude ,we're talking about political feudalism ,not about what you think about FPM and LF !
Do you think that FPM and LF are democratic parties??
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The centrist candidates are as non-sectarian as the Armenian parties!
What's your point ??
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