Lebanese Forces Leader Continues to call for Independent Investigative Commission into ALL Civil War Crimes

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Originally Posted by J.Hanna

DSG raised this issue again today. Yalla meen natreen? Who is afraid?

He is the ONLY leader to apologize for his mistakes during the war!
He is the ONLY leader to go to prison!

Everyone blames him for every crime ever committed; however, he is the ONLY leader that continues to call for a comprehensive and thorough Independent Investigative Civil War fact-finding Commission.

He is not scared of the TRUTH. He is saying bring it on.



So what are you waiting for?

1- He is not the only, he comes after FPM and HA. both have asked for such committees.
2- if by the word "you" you were addressing to me directly, then NOW after what he said, i am waiting the he "walk the talk" as they say in the USA, because earlier, i was not waiting for anyone.

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by J.Hanna

Well i agree with you on this, that he should clear his name as well the LF's name and seek a retrial, and many LFers have this pov. However, it is a fact that the court at the time was influenced by Syrian objectives and many international human rights groups called his trial a sham and unjust, seriously flawed and politically motivated....

No argument here.

so why even bother for a retrial if the initial trial was a joke and was so obviously politically motivated.

Well, SG's reluctance to call for a retrial is proving that the sentencing he got was deserved, and that he really committed what he was accused of doing.
Now regardless of that, many lebanese still believe he committed the Saydet najat bombing despite them acknowledging that the trial was politically motivated (as if the syrians care about justice). Does he not care to prove his innocence to them?

Also any crimes he might have committed are covered under the amnesty law, so one can understand his position regarding a retrial.

Not really. To my knowledge, he is still a convicted criminal and his judicial record (sejel 3adle) is still black. If he wants the sentencing to be dropped, he has to call for a retrial and win.
The amnesty law covers the pre-1990 atrocities (and not all of them I might add), not the post-Taef ones. SG was released under a law/deal which secured his release alongside the Donnieh terrorists.

As for a transcript, I will look but dont hold your breath.

I assure you I'm not.

[Observer]

geagea knows that such an investigation will never see light. This is why he is demanding it so tat every time the issue of the massacres come up he will say : hey I am the first one to demand an investigation, hoping that this will lower the bar on the accusation. It is one of his weakest point, the massacres and the blood of the innocent that is still haunting him and wil always be a black stain on the forehead of the LF.

[Zghertewe]

DSG!? D for ....

A criminal cannot apologize and cannot be forgiven, even if he read the bible chi 50 times and almost became a Saint during his stay in prison.

A criminal at his caliber should be in prison for the rest of his life and please don't make it sounds like he did his share.

Originally Posted by J.Hanna

DSG raised this issue again today. Yalla meen natreen? Who is afraid?

He is the ONLY leader to apologize for his mistakes during the war!
He is the ONLY leader to go to prison!

Everyone blames him for every crime ever committed; however, he is the ONLY leader that continues to call for a comprehensive and thorough Independent Investigative Civil War fact-finding Commission.

He is not scared of the TRUTH. He is saying bring it on.



So what are you waiting for?

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by Zghertewe

DSG!? D for ....

A criminal cannot apologize and cannot be forgiven, even if he read the bible chi 50 times and almost became a Saint during his stay in prison.

Well, St Paul committed many crimes when he was still went by the name Shaoul. I bet everyone sees he deserved to be forgiven bc he truly repented and spent the rest of his life trying to make up for what he did. So I do not think the above argument stands.

PS: plz no one take it as me comparing SG to St Paul, especially our esteemed fellow LFers.

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by Observer

geagea knows that such an investigation will never see light. This is why he is demanding it so tat every time the issue of the massacres come up he will say : hey I am the first one to demand an investigation, hoping that this will lower the bar on the accusation. It is one of his weakest point, the massacres and the blood of the innocent that is still haunting him and wil always be a black stain on the forehead of the LF.

Samir Geagea is probably the last person I could respect on earth, but here's the thing, since you're so sure that his demand is empty, how about you ask ur MPs to cut him short, draft a law proposal for this issue and present it IN PARLIAMENT (not on TV).

There, we could see if Samir Geagea was truthful about his demand. And since you're so sure that he's not, then at least now you could show it to the world, to him and to his supporters that he's a liar.

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by Zghertewe

DSG!? D for ....

A criminal cannot apologize and cannot be forgiven, even if he read the bible chi 50 times and almost became a Saint during his stay in prison.

A criminal at his caliber should be in prison for the rest of his life and please don't make it sounds like he did his share.

You are completely right about him and about his sentence.. He should stay in prison.

But for the sake of objectivity why don't we send all his likes to prison ?

And there are lots of them: Berry, Joumblatt, Nasrallah, Keyrouz, etc etc...

Are you ready to support such a demand ?
Or for these guys we're gonna need an investigation ??

[Zghertewe]

The list is much bigger... I once believed that GMA and FPM will be able to throw those people in prison by fighting corruption and by an audit. I was wrong, our country is the ideal place for those corrupted people and criminals, no one will be able to touch them, and SG is the biggest example. God Bless our country.

Originally Posted by The Jade

You are completely right about him and about his sentence.. He should stay in prison.

But for the sake of objectivity why don't we send all his likes to prison ?

And there are lots of them: Berry, Joumblatt, Nasrallah, Keyrouz, etc etc...

Are you ready to support such a demand ?
Or for these guys we're gonna need an investigation ??

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by The Jade

But for the sake of objectivity why don't we send all his likes to prison ?

And there are lots of them: Berry, Joumblatt, Nasrallah, Keyrouz, etc etc...

Care to explain this specific one?...Ya3neh just for the sake of objectivity.

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

Care to explain this specific one?...Ya3neh just for the sake of objectivity.

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