Lebanese Forces Leader Continues to call for Independent Investigative Commission into ALL Civil War Crimes

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by shadow1

Jeez one might occasionally be tempted to think this genre of Geagea bashing threads has been exhausted. But Obviously not. It's just as popular as ever and no amount of repetition could ever dull the enthusiasm.
For someone who can only manage a couple of seats in his own fortress, he most certainly is giving the FPM a good run for its money.

let's see if someone has something original to say this week.

jeez, judging by the endless supply of SG bashing threads around here one would think that u would be already exhausted dear shadow1 from nagging about them all by now hehe

but ur last sentence betrayed u and so did ur interest.. :)

ppl like to see what's the newest SG joke and waste some time over this, just like u are doing urself right now even though u are doing it in a more passive way so to speak hehe

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by MPFL

Any Law expert here?
1. Can Geagea submit a "Ta3en" in all rules convicting him of those crimes?
I guess it depends on the court and crime itself.
so anyone can clarify this?

No he can't.Judgment is now final and irreversible.

Originally Posted by MPFL

2. Can the Minister re-open the investigation and files for Geagea?

No he can't.A minister doesn't have any judicial power.Though he can request from the attorney general to take action,if anything occurs,but the attorney general is not bound to act accordingly and can turn down the request.

Originally Posted by MPFL

3. What are the possible ways to Re-Open all the investigations against Geagea?

If Geagea is put to trial once again for a recent crime,he no longer benefits from the amnesty law,and you can open up once again all his files.But you cannot indict him for those past crimes, unless he is sentenced "guilty" for the recent crime that caused the legal procedure to start at the first place, and provided that those crimes are still punishable today.

Technically,Geagea should not have been sentenced and put in jail,since he was found "not guilty" of the Church bombing,which means that the amnesty law should have covered him back again.

So...Although legally well motivated,and factually well documented,the judgment was still,not technically legal.

But technically too...the amnesty law is illegal and anti-constitutional if it is interpreted or applied in a way to cover up for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Which means that the amnesty law should not be taken into consideration for such crimes at the first place.

And finally,and also technically,the judgment,whatever the assessement,is final and irreversible so Geagea is and will always stay,a convicted criminal.

[shadow1]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

jeez, judging by the endless supply of SG bashing threads around here one would think that u would be already exhausted dear shadow1 from nagging about them all by now hehe

but ur last sentence betrayed u and so did ur interest.. :)

ppl like to see what's the newest SG joke and waste some time over this, just like u are doing urself right now even though u are doing it in a more passive way so to speak hehe

You are exaggerating mate. i only nagged six times before and let a couple of hundreds go uncommented on.
There are certain people one can count on for originality. Any orignality for me would do, be it that of substance or style. I am not fastidious by nature.

Back in the old days when chivalry was still alive, a duel always happened between men of equal size, otherwise it'd be a burlesque show and surely ya Red Phoenix you dont want to put me through yet another one.

[ecce homo]

Originally Posted by J.Hanna

DSG raised this issue again today. Yalla meen natreen? Who is afraid?

He is the ONLY leader to apologize for his mistakes during the war!
He is the ONLY leader to go to prison!

Everyone blames him for every crime ever committed; however, he is the ONLY leader that continues to call for a comprehensive and thorough Independent Investigative Civil War fact-finding Commission.

He is not scared of the TRUTH. He is saying bring it on.



So what are you waiting for?

Didn't he say a couple of weeks ago that we now have Taef why digging in the past in response to GMAs call for a DNA bank and investigation about the missing.

By the way Geagea did not apologize: "I fully apologize for all the mistakes that we committed when we were carrying out our national duties during past civil war years" He gave an excuse for the crimes he comitted. War crimes is not a national duty!

From the LA Times:

"Always I have a mystic tension, a mystic inclination, because I'm acquainted with the Christian mystics," he said. "I went deep into the Hindu philosophy." Alone in his cell, he began what he called a process of "auto-psychoanalysis" to examine his actions. "It's not as easy as it seems," Geagea said. "This needs fasting all the time. It needs concentration. It needs meditation. Of course, it needs silence, and I had the silence because I was solitary." He said he tried to determine what he did right during the war, such as making a tactical retreat that cost positions but saved civilian lives, and what he did wrong, which he declined to specify. "I would leave that to history," he said.

If he want's to be honest with himself and want's people to accept his apology, let him tell us who he killed and why.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by shadow1

Back in the old days when chivalry was still alive, a duel always happened between men of equal size, otherwise it's be a burlesque show and surely ya Red Phoenix you dont want to put me through yet another one.

Back in those days,you wouldn't find a dwarf,constantly harassing a gentleman for a duel.

Now that's something original for this week...Satisfied?...Want more?...

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by shadow1

You are exaggerating mate. i only nagged six times before and let a couple of hundreds go uncommented on.
There are certain people one can count on for originality. Any orignality for me would do, be it that of substance or style. I am not fastidious by nature.

Back in the old days when chivalry was still alive, a duel always happened between men of equal size, otherwise it's be a burlesque show and surely ya Red Phoenix you dont want to put me through yet another one.

seulement 6 times? i'll take ur word for it, i wasn't keeping tab, but apparently u were :)

so y don't u spice things up a tad then so u can sit back and watch the fireworks..

u can't demand a good show if u don't care to help a bit with the stage setup.

do a bit of counter bashing then to get the spirits up just right.

i'd hate to think that someone of ur refined pessimistic stature is getting bored around here from listening to the same old joke spin-offs.. hehe

[shadow1]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

Back in those days,you wouldn't find a dwarf,constantly harassing a gentleman for a duel.

Now that's something original for this week...Satisfied?...Want more?...

You got it the other way around.

[El-Meghwar]

If Geagea was so sure that his demand will be answered he would not have raised it in the first place.
Anyway this person does not have anything to offer in politics, he is just a clown who talks just for talking and his words has no value .

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by shadow1

You got it the other way around.

Ok...Then you proposed here something more original for this week...but the other way around.

[Abou Sandal]

Actually Geagea's proposal is very interesting.

FPM should join him in his demand and challenge him...And let's see how far he would want to go.