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There are plenty of policy shifts to choose from. From attacking Hizballah one year to kissing Ahmedinejad the next. From saying that the Syrians killed Hariri for sure one year, to blaming islamists (maybe it was Abu Adas all along) the other. I can go on.
The point if GMA had stayed with March 14th he would probably be president right now, instead of figuring out new ways to undermine GMS.

Try to put down the red-bull before answering this time.
Again, i'd advise you to use a french dictionnary when looking at the video's you sent me (regarding the hariri killing). Je suis quasi-convaincu que ta comprehension de la langue francaise n'excede pas celle d'un enfant gitan de 4 ans, et que donc tu ne comprends toujours pas que le general ne se contredit pas dans les videos mais dit des choses complementaires.

As for the other topics you pointed out, they were extensively debated in this forum and I advise you to do a quick thread research to find out the truth about them.

Finally, I'd rather have the general as head of one of the biggest opposition blocks then president of Feb14 bunch. And i think 99.99% of FPM'ers agree with me (internal elections won't change a thing). Too bad for you.
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Finally, I'd rather have the general as head of one of the biggest opposition blocks then president of Feb14 bunch. And i think 99.99% of FPM'ers agree with me (internal elections won't change a thing). Too bad for you.
In reality the FPM is no longer "opposition", it is a member of the government. The only reason GMA considers himself opposition is because he is not the president. He will remain in this kind of opposition till the end of his days because he believed what the Syrians told him. 99.99% of FPMer's might agree with you, except GMA.

P.S. you get an A+ for your french essay.
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In reality the FPM is no longer "opposition", it is a member of the government. The only reason GMA considers himself opposition is because he is not the president. He will remain in this kind of opposition till the end of his days because he believed what the Syrians told him. 99.99% of FPMer's might agree with you, except GMA.

P.S. you get an A+ for your french essay.
FPM is in the government to oppose the unilateral decisions of the Saudi ex syrian puppets, having 1/3 of the gov doesn't make you a decision maker because you can't vote on the majority of the decisions in your favor but you can veto and oppose big decisions so he is in the opposition although he is in the government.
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FPM is in the government to oppose the unilateral decisions of the Saudi ex syrian puppets, having 1/3 of the gov doesn't make you a decision maker because you can't vote on the majority of the decisions in your favor but you can veto and oppose big decisions so he is in the opposition although he is in the government.
Add to that GMA is also in the parliamentary opposition.
We're dealing with kids over here...
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This news bit was published in a Figaro segment called "Les confidentiels du Figaro", (brief news of 5 or 6 lines on the last page of the newspaper).

Two weeks ago, a TV program on Canal Horizon revealed how this page is written. Basically, it is used by right wing politicians ( friends of the Figaro) to send messages to each others or to the public at large. Sarkozy frequently uses this page for trial ballons.

The TV program said that the news published there are often false or incomplete, and that they are published mainly to advance the political or business interests of some people.

Figaro accepts to publish this stuff as a service rendered to politicians close to the newspaper, who, in exchange, provide inside news to Figaro journalists.

It is not Malbrunot who is in charge if this page.
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so he is in the opposition although he is in the government
Wow. That is a good one.
The fact that the FPM has a vote on all government decisions that go through the cabinet, and is part of a coalition of parties that can block any proposal means it is actively governing. Every decision approved by the cabinet has therefore been approved by the FPM. That's how governments work in democracies.
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In reality the FPM is no longer "opposition", it is a member of the government. The only reason GMA considers himself opposition is because he is not the president. He will remain in this kind of opposition till the end of his days because he believed what the Syrians told him. 99.99% of FPMer's might agree with you, except GMA.

P.S. you get an A+ for your french essay.
we are in govt to checkmate the town crier sousou , from completely bankrupting and finishing our country

bass next year, we will be in the drivers seat.and that is a promise.
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let me start with this short messages... it is not written in a professional way... look at the first sentence, "ses nouveaux amis, les syriens"....
it is a bashing message like the ones we write here in the forum. actually it looks more like a comment section rather than a real message...

on the other hands, I think GMA proved himself to be patriotic and people will always feel safe if he meets with Israeli agents or Pat Robertson....

unfortunately, none of the other lebanese politicians benefit from this trust.


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There are plenty of policy shifts to choose from. From attacking Hizballah one year to kissing Ahmedinejad the next. From saying that the Syrians killed Hariri for sure one year, to blaming islamists (maybe it was Abu Adas all along) the other. I can go on.
The point if GMA had stayed with March 14th he would probably be president right now, instead of figuring out new ways to undermine GMS.

Try to put down the red-bull before answering this time.
let me correct you here again... GMA didn't accuse Syrian, he blamed syria for the death since they were in charge at that time... he was the first to have asked for an international investigation and a mixed international-lebanese tribunal.

GMA attacked HA in the past and called for their disarming. he is still calling for their disarming. they need to hand back the weapons and time has proven you simply cannot take it back by force..

finally, GMA has proved more than 10 times so far that he is not after the presidency of the republic but after the republic itself... he sacrificed a right given to him by the lebanese people for the sake of the republic... he doesn't want a president of a destroyed republic.. he doesn't want to rule from Kfarshima to Madfoun.. he wants to be a president acclaimed in the far south to the far north.. he wants to visit countries where he is greeted as a patriotic and national man...

unfortunately, a lot of the politicians see any post as a position to use it to loot and increase their fortune... for GMA, that's not the case..

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Wow. That is a good one.
The fact that the FPM has a vote on all government decisions that go through the cabinet, and is part of a coalition of parties that can block any proposal means it is actively governing. Every decision approved by the cabinet has therefore been approved by the FPM. That's how governments work in democracies.
The decision can be rejected by FPM yet approved by the government, how does this make FPM not opposition? Just because they are in the government does not stop them from being opposition, shaklak mish 3eref idak min bou3ak. It is not because in the US you don't see opposition in the government that you can't call opposition in the government opposition.
The opposition is to keep the governing party in check and since the parliament that elected the majority is all falso because of ghazi kanaan/hariri laws then they can't oppose in parliament so they moved to the government, so there role is to keep the governing party in check.
If they are there to oppose they are opposition, bala jadal bizanti ktir.
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Accusing the other side of doing the same as us does not help, it makes the FPM look cheap. It is up to the FPM to hold itself accountable for confusing policy shifts and erroneous strategic shifts. In other words, the internal FPM elections should happen soon. If not, the top positions in the party will go to those who do not deserve it and just married-into the organization, so to speak.

I hope this comment is not censored by the moderators. The last one was.
You still haven't answered me what is your problem with Aoun meeting with the Israelis? If you have one, state it clearly bala ma t7our w dour to bring up unrelated issues like internal elections and shifting positions and ballout.

Here, I will help you: Aoun met with the Israelis. What is your problem with it and what are you going to do about it? t3addo bi deynto?

By the way, I met with the Israelis too and will meet with them again... ta3a 3addneh bi deynteh.

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