Kataeb and Leb Forces want to destroy FPM using Hezbollah

[roeshieroe23]

Originally Posted by sisco

what lf and kataeb and all 14feb parties are doing is not acceptable and they are showing too much hate.

However, what fpmers are doing by defending this action and minimizing it's importance is not acceptable too !!!

لا أحد يقلل من الحادث أو تحجيمه, و هو مستنكر لكن الشاب لم يقصد اسقاط طوافة الجيش بل اعتقد أنه إنزال إسرائيلي, ما يجعلنا نحيد عن التصويب االصحيح للحادث هو الإستغلال الرخيص من طرف البعض لأغراض انتخابية و فبركة القصص لتحريك الغرائز, حزب الله صدم أيضا بالحادث و لم يكن يتوقعه وو الدليل التجاوب االتام مع القضاء و التزامه أي قرار يصدر عن التحقيق

لماذا لا نضع أنفسنا مكان الشاب, تلة سجد هي أهم موقع للمقاومة و تضم كل مراكزه الهامة, الشباب رصدوا طوافة غير مألوفة و لا تشبه طوافات الجيش إعتقد أنه إنزال إسرائيلي , ضغط الوقت و إرباك اللحظة يضيق فرص التفكير السليم, يعني لو كان فعلا إنزال إسرائيلي سينتظرون حتى يجهزوا عليهم, أرادوا منع الطوافة من التحليق فأصيب االشهيد بالخطأ, يجب أن نفهم نفسية أولئك المقاومين مع التهديدات الإسرائيلية فهم يجب ن يكونوا يقظين كل الوقت و لا مجال للتهاون
علاقة حزب الله بالجيش متينة و صلبة و لم يسبق أن حدث هذا الأمر , يستغل الآن لمهاجمة التيار لأن جمهور التيار حساس من جهة الجيش, يعني لو لم يكن هناك ورقة االتفاهم لتم المرور على الحادث مرور الكرام
الطواقة استقدمت حديثا من الإمارات و العلم اللبناني فيها بحجم أصغر غير واضحة, و لونها يختلف عن طوافات االجيش , الشاب لم يقصد ضرب طوافة الجيش إنما أراد حماية الموقع من إنزال إسرائيلي لأن الطوافة كانت غريبة عن الشباب في الموقع

[roeshieroe23]

Originally Posted by leb-wi-noss

so you really believe that it was only this person protecting the area?
When mustafa dirani was kidnapped ha was still an organization that is only capable of filling a car with explosives and crash it into an israeli check point. Ha didn't have back then it's own radar system, tens of thousands of missiles, air defense system and the famous communication network.
Following your logic and the excuses that you are giving to ha. The army should go home and do nothing because ha can mistake them with the israelis, and then we should blame the army.

Pathetic!

كانوا 4 شباب لكنه هو من أطلق النار و القضاء استمع للأشخاص الآخرين الذين كانوا معه و من كان في الموقع لكن أبقي على مطلق النار

عسكريا في تلة استراتيجية كتلة سجد للمقاومة يكون كل مجموعة من 4 إلى 5 أشخاص عند كل نقطة للرصد و التصدي لأي إنزال ; و الحادث لم يقع عند مركز لحزب االله و إلا لما وقع الحادث

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by freelebanonn

i want to know why loyalist are pointing to hizbullah( which is their right) but not asking themselves who send him to that area?. why was he flying 3a 3lou mounkhafed wbiwad3iyeh 2iteliyeh.? why did he go to that area knowing that aktariyit 2awa3id hizbullah 2el saroukhiyeh mawjoudeh honik? etc. i think we dont only need to know who shot him and why but also who send him their and why!

I think that the level of emotions and the "Mouzeyadeh" race,over who supports the Army and who doesn't,that F14 have started,prohibits some people to ask this kind of righteous questions.

Beware for you might be labeled very badly for asking such "taboo" questions.

Originally Posted by Libnene Qu7

Whether some people like it or not, HA need some major explaining to do. Not for Feb 14 gangsters to refrain from abusing this incident, because that is a sickness they will never get cured from. But for the majority of the Lebanese public, especially FPM, who hold the Army in the highest regard; Higher than all of the politicians put together. We need an explanation as to why this incident happened knowing that HA possess professionalism unmatched even by most armies. We need an explanation in order to fill the gap that exists and avoid any further similar mistakes.

Friendly fires happen in all major armies, as some members pointed out. But they always find the mistake and learn from it. Let us at least do the same.

I think that the mistake occured from both sides,but somehow,i see HA willing to take the blame alone.

I hope that i'm mistaken,but i wouldn't want for HA to be doing it to cover for some LA officer's mistake.

We need to know the truth...all the truth.

[leb-wi-noss]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

I think that the level of emotions and the "Mouzeyadeh" race,over who supports the Army and who doesn't,that F14 have started,prohibits some people to ask this kind of righteous questions.

Beware for you might be labeled very badly for asking such "taboo" questions.




I think that the mistake occured from both sides,but somehow,i see HA willing to take the blame alone.

I hope that i'm mistaken,but i wouldn't want for HA to be doing it to cover for some LA officer's mistake.

We need to know the truth...all the truth.

I would like to remind you, although you are trying so hard to be in denial, that HA's first statement said that he has nothing to do with this:

12:42 Hezbollah issues a statement denying any involvement in the helicopter shooting and confirms that it was aware the Lebanese army was conducting a three-day maneuver in southern Lebanon.


But after he noticed the amount of damaged and since the victim was an christian army office from Batroun and because of the media pressure of M14, they had to choose the other way.

[GMA forever]

Originally Posted by King Rami

Kataeb and Leb Forces want to destroy FPM using Hezbollah and it's obvious, everytime Hezbollah commits a mistake the Kataeb/LF start bashing FPM, as if Hezbollah is FPM and FPM is concerned in everything Hezbollah does.

An explosion occurs somewhere in Lebanon, they bash FPM,
A politician gets assassinated in Lebanon, they bash FPM,
A battle happen between rival armed groups, they bash FPM,
A political decision from the government gets stuck, they bash FPM,
An unfortunate accident happen in Lebanon, they bash FPM,

We are their worst nightmare, we are their one and only obsession, FPM is their only Adiye, because they are too weak and too much of cowards to dare stand up against someone less peaceful than FPM.

Kataeb and LF broke every rule of decency in their hate against FPM, I can only say that whoever who is still fooled by their lies and hate doesn't deserve any better than them. Either the people are aware enough of the situation to not let a single most unfortunate accident affect their beliefs, or we all don't deserve better than liars and corrupt criminals.

[Commodore]

I'm personally just bothered by the hypocrisy of FPM ya king rami. If it was a Muslim officer, solider, or pilot, then FPM's reaction would've been very little to null.

But because there are the Batroun votes at stake here, we see a phony outcry. Cut it out already, it's an accident and it happened. Get over it.

[Ashrafieh_101]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

They can't beat us in substance,so they resort to cheap propaganda....Really pathetic.

A HA fan is complaining about propaganda!?!? lol
Turn on Manar tv and you'll see propaganda and lies that would make Joseph Goebbels proud

[Commodore]

Originally Posted by GMA forever

An explosion occurs somewhere in Lebanon, they bash FPM,
A politician gets assassinated in Lebanon, they bash FPM,
A battle happen between rival armed groups, they bash FPM,
A political decision from the government gets stuck, they bash FPM,
An unfortunate accident happen in Lebanon, they bash FPM,

We are their worst nightmare, we are their one and only obsession, FPM is their only Adiye, because they are too weak and too much of cowards to dare stand up against someone less peaceful than FPM.

Kataeb and LF broke every rule of decency in their hate against FPM, I can only say that whoever who is still fooled by their lies and hate doesn't deserve any better than them. Either the people are aware enough of the situation to not let a single most unfortunate accident affect their beliefs, or we all don't deserve better than liars and corrupt criminals.

People bash FPM because you're viewed as the Christian satellite and cover for HA. Otherwise, nobody would give you the time of day. You know that, and that's why you've become slaves to that MoU.

[sasha]

thanks for finally saying it, Commodore.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by leb-wi-noss

I would like to remind you, although you are trying so hard to be in denial, that HA's first statement said that he has nothing to do with this:

If it is true...Then this should prove that HA's command never issued an order to shoot down the helicopter,and was as much surprised as everyone.

Originally Posted by leb-wi-noss

12:42 Hezbollah issues a statement denying any involvement in the helicopter shooting and confirms that it was aware the Lebanese army was conducting a three-day maneuver in southern Lebanon.

Again,and assuming that HA issued this statement,....well...even Honolulu knew that the Lebanese army was conducting a three-day maneuver in southern Lebanon.

The question revolves around a specific zone,that everyone knows that it is heavily guarded by the resistance,and put on full alert ,due to recent Israeli threats and fly over.

A simple phone call (or any usual standard procedure between the LA and HA ) could have avoided this incident,and spared the life of a valuable Army officer.

Don't you think?

Originally Posted by leb-wi-noss

But after he noticed the amount of damaged and since the victim was an christian army office from Batroun and because of the media pressure of M14, they had to choose the other way.

That's you imagining tales...not worth replying to.Everyone is free to let his imagination float after all...