Kataeb and Leb Forces want to destroy FPM using Hezbollah

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by MindFree

They didnt accuse, they arent police nor judges, they reported a story based on their sources, and reported the next day another story based on other sources.

la2 3anjad innocent hal Orient de Jour. GMA should apologize ASAP.

This is totally uncomparable to photoshopped photos, to filkkaisrael, and to all the surrealistic stories that appear on FPM official media outlets, yet we get to hear Michel Aoun attacking L'orient le Jour , although it didnt pass any limits.

just for consistency, do u also condemn the loyalists' media outlets and their space age fabrications?

Michel Aoun ought first to attack his own media outlets and himself for using photoshopped images before attacking respectable media outlets just because they reported a story about his dear ally HA.

L'orient de Jour is a respectable media outlet? since when? As a matter of fact, there exist no respectable media outlets, and if there is, L'OdJ would be on the bottom of the list.

Let him know that his official media wont become in lebanon another techrine or thawra.

or better yet Siyassa or Shira3, 2 lebanese magazines who are just as bad if not worse than those 2 syrian newspapers.

[DITOU]

i bet this mind FREE dont even read l'Orien le Jour ...

well in my opinion insulting writers like Michel Touma and Emil khoury who have the most insulting vocabulary when it comes to GMA and FPM should be send to court ..

GMA is very cool this is the true respect for freedom of speach .

[MindFree]

Originally Posted by vegojimbo

1-la2 3anjad innocent hal Orient de Jour. GMA should apologize ASAP.

2-just for consistency, do u also condemn the loyalists' media outlets and their space age fabrications?

3-L'orient de Jour is a respectable media outlet? since when? As a matter of fact, there exist no respectable media outlets, and if there is, L'OdJ would be on the bottom of the list.

4-or better yet Siyassa or Shira3, 2 lebanese magazines who are just as bad if not worse than those 2 syrian newspapers.

1-yes GMA should apologize ASAP for trying to intimidate press in lebanon, it seems reporting news about HA is becoming a taboo, after all taking decisions about HA is a taboo, saying a word in the parliament about HA is a taboo, and you have Aoun to remind you of that.

2-What does the loyalists media outlets have to do with this? this is about Aoun daring to attack and intimidate media outlets for reporting a news while his media outlets are reporting news from things similar to filkkaisrael. And this is not the first time Aoun attacks media and journalists.

3- Your opinion

4-al siyassa is a kuweiti newspaper for the sake of accuracy, but anyway, it is ur opinion to think that alchira3 is worse or better than both, it is not the point, the point is that Aoun should know his limits and his limits are the freedom of press, he either cleans his media and then can at least have some credibility to criticize other media outlets, either he will have people to remind him that he doesnt live in a military state, this might be the example he is giving us for the next elections, in case HA wins, we might get his propaganda outlets working, and other media silenced and put on trial. Adnan Addoum might well survive and become another mounadel kabir like wiam wahhab.

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by MindFree

1-yes GMA should apologize ASAP for trying to intimidate press in lebanon, it seems reporting news about HA is becoming a taboo, after all taking decisions about HA is a taboo, saying a word in the parliament about HA is a taboo, and you have Aoun to remind you of that.

since when suing anybody in court is intimidation?

2-What does the loyalists media outlets have to do with this? this is about Aoun daring to attack and intimidate media outlets for reporting a news while his media outlets are reporting news from things similar to filkkaisrael. And this is not the first time Aoun attacks media and journalists.

About filkaIsrael, yes it's a shitty source of news I give u that.
However, the lebanese media is far from being objective and clean, so GMA has every right to criticize any media and journalist he want. After all, he's exercising his freedom of speech or he's not allowed to anymore?

3- Your opinion

Exactly, just like the content of ur posts. Stil, I must note that if u consider l'OdJ as respectable, then u are surely a hypocrite for attacking tayyar.org and other FPM related media.

4-al siyassa is a kuweiti newspaper for the sake of accuracy,

I'm talking about the LF magazine. What's its name again? something that sounds close to Siyassa as I recall.

but anyway, it is ur opinion to think that alchira3 is worse or better than both, it is not the point, the point is that Aoun should know his limits and his limits are the freedom of press, he either cleans his media and then can at least have some credibility to criticize other media outlets,

credibility does not go against freedom of speech. U can focus on his lack of credibility by attacking media outlets, but u can not claim that he's acting against freedom of speech, bc the latter actually gives him the right to sue any media outlet he wants. It's up to the courts to decide if his case is righteous or not.
What a messed up understanding of freedom of speech do many lebanese have!

either he will have people to remind him that he doesnt live in a military state, this might be the example he is giving us for the next elections, in case HA wins, we might get his propaganda outlets working, and other media silenced and put on trial. Adnan Addoum might well survive and become another mounadel kabir like wiam wahhab.

U talk about propaganda and u exercise it in the very same paragraph. U surely thrive on consistency I must admit!

[DITOU]

Originally Posted by MindFree

1-yes GMA should apologize ASAP for trying to intimidate press in lebanon, it seems reporting news about HA is becoming a taboo, after all taking decisions about HA is a taboo, saying a word in the parliament about HA is a taboo, and you have Aoun to remind you of that.

2-What does the loyalists media outlets have to do with this? this is about Aoun daring to attack and intimidate media outlets for reporting a news while his media outlets are reporting news from things similar to filkkaisrael. And this is not the first time Aoun attacks media and journalists.

3- Your opinion

4-al siyassa is a kuweiti newspaper for the sake of accuracy, but anyway, it is ur opinion to think that alchira3 is worse or better than both, it is not the point, the point is that Aoun should know his limits and his limits are the freedom of press, he either cleans his media and then can at least have some credibility to criticize other media outlets, either he will have people to remind him that he doesnt live in a military state, this might be the example he is giving us for the next elections, in case HA wins, we might get his propaganda outlets working, and other media silenced and put on trial. Adnan Addoum might well survive and become another mounadel kabir like wiam wahhab.

When your freedom step on others freedom and dignity when it become nothing more then personal low level attacks it is no longer freedom it is journalisme prostitution . Freedom of speach has its basis and its principales .

seems that the lebanese have a weird definition of freedom of speach .

When those who call themselves "journalistes" start to behave as true journalistes and base their articles on deep fruitfull analyse of facts without throwing baseless accusations using dirty vocabulary .
When they will learn that a great journaliste is the one who know how to present his idea with little of respect and politness even if he talking about an opponenent , then you will never have to see GMA dragging newspapers and journalistes to court .

There is a very thin line between freedom of speach and defamation . Try to figure it out !

[Ashrafieh_101]

Originally Posted by naro

امين الجميل بعد تفقده مكاتب لوريون لوجور : ايام كان العماد ميشال عون رئيسا للوزراء كان يستخدم الوسائل ذاتها لترهيب الصحافة والصحافيين وإملاء مواقفه عليهم واعتبر ان العماد عون يؤمن الغطاء لقيام دولة داخل الدولة ولاستمرار المربعات الأمنية التي يسيطر عليها "حزب الله

True! I remember Annahar and other papers were banned from East Beirut. Then they had to start printing 2 editions! Aoun is bad news for democracy in Lebanon

[Venom]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_101

True! I remember Annahar and other papers were banned from East Beirut. Then they had to start printing 2 editions! Aoun is bad news for democracy in Lebanon

Samir Geagea is an idol in democracy....lol

[Ashrafieh_101]

Originally Posted by coralie

you are talking abput a photoshoped image ??????????????????????
ya waylak men alla this same day one of your heroes SHOT 3 FPM DEMONSTRATORS PARALIZING ONE OF THEM FOR LIFE HIS NAME IS MARK HOWAYEK AND YOU DARE TALK ABOUT A PHOTOSHOP PIC ????????????? aya respectable media outlet ? te3oul el zo3ran elli awasso our FPMers ??????????

WLAK EL 3AMA CHOU AN JAD BALA RASS ENTO ! rouh stehi ala damak ya walad .

If you weren't acting like militiamen closing roads and disrupting people's lives none of this would've happened. You only have yourself to blame

[Ashrafieh_101]

Originally Posted by Venom

Samir Geagea is an idol in democracy....lol

What has he done that's anti-democratic since the end of the war??

[Addoun Kelloun]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_101

True! I remember Annahar and other papers were banned from East Beirut. Then they had to start printing 2 editions! Aoun is bad news for democracy in Lebanon

Sure he is, and the LF is good news for democracy and freedom of speech in Lebanon !! there are so many examples to support that fact I can't list them here