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Originally Posted by J. Abizeid Thank you for laying it out so clearly even the blind might finally sense something. As they say, let the chips fall where they may. I have a feeling someone is having a bad reaction confronting the truth here. And as they say, if the shoe fits they should wear it or whatever….. | Facing the truth is something very hard when you have a lot on the menu. What is sooooo negative in the Jenes 3atil, is that they lack any plan for the country or for themselves, their only reason for existence is GMA & FPM. Whenever GMA stands in the way of corruption and treason, they are unleashed to open a universal war against us.
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Juste à la veille des élections, le Patriarche Maronite s’est dit inquiet à propos de l’existence même du Liban, et de son cachet, en faisant allusion aux armes de Hizbollah. Les propos du Patriarche ont même pu influencer les hésitants à voter 14 Mars (à voter contre le général Aoun).
Cependant, ce même Patriarche ne semble pas du tout inquiet à propos des milliers de sunnites que Saad Hariri a fait déplacer à Zahleh pour imposer son opinion sur les Chrétiens de Zahleh (et gagner ainsi la majorité parlementaire). Ce même Patriarche ne semble pas du tout s’être inquiété par le changement démographique que le Hariri clan organise dans certaines régions chrétiennes. Dans quelques années, le général Aoun et le Patriarche Sfeir finiront par mourir, mais les milliers de Sunnites récemment déplacés à Zahleh continueront à imposer leur opinion sur les Chrétiens de Zahleh !... Mais le Patriarche ne s’en est pas du tout inquiété !!!...
D’ailleurs, le changement démographique dans certaines régions chrétiennes a débuté sous le Hariri père, Rafic Hariri qui avait donné la nationalité libanaise à une centaine de milliers de Sunnites (avec l’aide de Michel Murr). Vous imaginez ce que représente une centaine de milliers de Sunnites pour une petite population de 3 millions de libanais?!
D’après la Cour Suprême, la nationalité de ces gens devait être revue; mais rien n’a été fait et ils ont voté comme toi et moi. Mais le Patriarche ne s’en est pas du tout inquiété !!!...
Le monde entier voudrait nationaliser 600000 palestiniens sunnites au Liban (600000 sur une petite population de 3 millions!). Si avec juste 10000 sunnites déplacés à Zahleh, Hariri a pu gagner la majorité parlementaire, que ferait-il avec 600000 sunnites de plus ?!... Mais le Patriarche ne s’en est pas du tout inquiété !!!...
Donc, la nationalisation d’une centaine de milliers de Sunnites par Rafic Hariri + le déplacement de milliers de sunnites par Saad Hariri + une éventuelle nationalisation de 600000 sunnites palestiniens n’inquiètent pas du tout notre cher Patriarche: Seules les armes de Hizbollah le font. Halelouya! | | | | | The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to elador For This Useful Post: | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by GMA forever Facing the truth is something very hard when you have a lot on the menu. What is sooooo negative in the Jenes 3atil, is that they lack any plan for the country or for themselves, their only reason for existence is GMA & FPM. Whenever GMA stands in the way of corruption and treason, they are unleashed to open a universal war against us.
As for the one who had a bad reaction, I think he was one of the 30.000 students that Hariri helped to educate them.  | Thanks to GMA, Jenes el3atil are not killing each other anymore and thank God for that! We need to educate their young punks about Lebanon’s recent history when they killed each other based on religion and bigotry. They need to learn about Kataeb vs. Mourabitoun, Sfeir vs. Joumblatt and so on long before HA and the FPM were born… Back then SHN was a kid in school and GMA was the Lebanese army chief trying to get Jenes el3atil of each other throat. It’s amazing what a green buck can do… They even forgot their assassinated relatives. They don’t want to know who killed them anymore… It's party time for them now... By the way, whatever happened to the International Tribunal? | | | | | The Following User Says Thank You to J. Abizeid For This Useful Post: | | | Orange Room Moderator
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Originally Posted by J. Abizeid By the way, whatever happened to the International Tribunal? | It got them the majority for 2 elections in a row, shtaghal sheghlo w kattar al international tribunal.
Aaaaaaah, you meant who killed Rafi2 Hariri? Well whoever stands in the way of naturalising the palestinians in Lebanon, will surely have a hand in it! | | | | | The Following User Says Thank You to GMA forever For This Useful Post: | | | Orange Room Supporter
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after JUN 7 what we have always warned the 14shbatt christians elements from happened.
1-wello HA best new/old friend
2-berri will be elected by landslide
3-HA arms a no go area for saad
4-velayat al fakee7 a mirage.
5-zahle was screwed by the na2al al noufoss and not by chador clad voters.
6-batrak warned from the shia demographics danger just to witness the sunni ones in action ( koura, zahle, beirut1)
IF THESE ISSUES WERE OPENLY KNOWN BY SOME PEOPLE, WILL IT HAVE CHANGED THEIR VOTING PATTERNS????????????
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ONES WHO WERE BRIBED, BUT THE % OF INDEPENDENTS WHO SHIFTED TO 14shbatt DUES TO THESE FEAR FACTORS. | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by Greg Davis [] Anny,
What would you know about Lebanon and our true resistance.
I'm sure you were still in dipers when the 'dooleb' dislocated several vertbrae in my spine at a Syrian checkpoint.
Which Government are you referring to?
Australian or Lebanese? I grew up along Naher el berid in a small Chrisrian village in the dunnieh, so please spare me the lecture on who is our largest threat. Do you think it was easy resisting the radical sunni islamist group 'tawheed el islamiyeh', the Syrians, the palestinians, and every piece of craap that fits in between.
Ensuring Weak and innafective Christian political parties forms a large part of the fm, psp, ha & amal idiology.
We are not much different to the Israelis. People gradually being forced out of their land, due to oppression and islamic doctrine.
There are over ten million Lebanese Christians worldwide who long for a place to call home. As our land and homes are taken from us, either by Hunger 'turkish occupation', by oppression 'Syrian occupation' by intimidation' South Lebanon, Tripoli, bekaa and 3akkar', by Force ' as occured in the shouf, west/south beirut' and when all the above lead a person to despair in comes the Saudi/Iranian idiological money to buy it all.
A time will come when our children reach high places around the world and will revolt to demand our homes back.
Yes we will become a common Islamic enemy, Infadels, Crusaders and Invaders of Islamic land, but the truth of the matter is, we are people of this land who just wanna live in our land in peace. | That's exactly the problem, you might have lived the sunni extremist threat, the Palestinian and Syrian threats etc... but you have never witnessed the Israeli threat! which is worst than all of those you cited combined! You glorify Israel just out of your hate for the Syrians and Palestinians and maybe even Muslims!
Ya habibi I won't lie to you, I have not witnessed the civil war, but it really surprises me how we in Zgharta, managed to get along fine with the palestinians syrians and muslims from 1977 till 1990, and you guys did not! I'll tell you how! It's because you didin't understand the game! you kept on glorifying Israel and the west, and joining those radical christian parties and you wanted to kick everyone's a55! If you had just sat aside, didin't provoke them, you wouldn't have fealt a thing! And if by any chance they still would have agressed you, then you can fight them in your own backyard like we did in 75-76, not go and massacre them and their kids in their homes and provoke a never ending civil war! If the sunnis in the north were angry against you because the kataebis in Beirut were clashing with the sunnis and palestinians, all you had to do, is show them you're not part of that ugly movement, they would have spared you! What most of you guys are still not getting, is that everytime there was a chance to calm the war down, you just incited it further! | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by mickey117 That's exactly the problem, you might have lived the sunni extremist threat, the Palestinian and Syrian threats etc... but you have never witnessed the Israeli threat! which is worst than all of those you cited combined! You glorify Israel just out of your hate for the Syrians and Palestinians and maybe even Muslims!
Ya habibi I won't lie to you, I have not witnessed the civil war, but it really surprises me how we in Zgharta, managed to get along fine with the palestinians syrians and muslims from 1977 till 1990, and you guys did not! I'll tell you how! It's because you didin't understand the game! you kept on glorifying Israel and the west, and joining those radical christian parties and you wanted to kick everyone's a55! If you had just sat aside, didin't provoke them, you wouldn't have fealt a thing! And if by any chance they still would have agressed you, then you can fight them in your own backyard like we did in 75-76, not go and massacre them and their kids in their homes and provoke a never ending civil war! If the sunnis in the north were angry against you because the kataebis in Beirut were clashing with the sunnis and palestinians, all you had to do, is show them you're not part of that ugly movement, they would have spared you! What most of you guys are still not getting, is that everytime there was a chance to calm the war down, you just incited it further! | Mickey are you really from Zgharta?
Didn't you hear of the 3shash monastry massacre, or the 7eylan massacre or when the palestinians would constantly attack mount terbol etc.
Didn't you know those villages are in the Zghorta area, or haven't you been informed of the grim truth.
As to protection measures taken in Zghorta, If it wasn't for the radical christian Sleiman Franjieh seniour Zghorta Property law that was imposed throught the civil war era until the early nineties that prevented non-christians from purchasing property in Zghorta , and that is what protected you're property .
Habibi we weren't in beirut nor were we glorifying Israel, our Church 'Saydat 3asoun' was blown up and our homes occupied because we were minority infadels. Our church bells were a symbol of satan and our woman uncovering their hair was a bad influence on the woman of the district.
I have no hatred towards anybody. As a matter of fact, one of my business partners is a Sunni 7abashi, and my Civil and airconditioning contractors are Shiites , so spare me the biggot label.
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Originally Posted by Greg Davis Mickey are you really from Zgharta?
Didn't you hear of the 3shash monastry massacre, or the 7eylan massacre or when the palestinians would constantly attack mount terbol etc.
Didn't you know those villages are in the Zghorta area, or haven't you been informed of the grim truth. As to protection measures taken in Zghorta, If it wasn't for the radical christian Sleiman Franjieh seniour Zghorta Property law that was imposed throught the civil war era until the early nineties that prevented non-christians from purchasing property in Zghorta , and that is what protected you're property . Habibi we weren't in beirut nor were we glorifying Israel, our Church 'Saydat 3asoun' was blown up and our homes occupied because we were minority infadels. Our church bells were a symbol of satan and our woman uncovering their hair was a bad influence on the woman of the district.
I have no hatred towards anybody. As a matter of fact, one of my business partners is a Sunni 7abashi, and my Civil and airconditioning contractors are Shiites , so spare me the biggot label.
My philosophy in life is 'live and let live'. Respect others' right to disagree with you, and respect others' right to beleive in whatever the heck they want. I also beleive that partnerships cannot occur under duress, nor can a partnership work when a party intends to take advantage of the other. | Please remind of when these events occurred... That was never a law, it's something Zghertawis commonly agreed on, they would hardly sell terrain to people from outside the region, christian or non-christian, but I don't see where it fits in the subject.... Well, I can't guess which village you belong to nor what is your story, but the case I named was the case of most of the christian villages in the north, but you seem to have fell on some ultra-radical islamist neighbors who they represent 1% of muslims and who are mainly located in the donniyeh area, by the way having muslim businesspartners does not meen you're not a muslim-hater, it's clear in all your posts how much you hate muslims... Oh, and your posts also show how much you glorify Israel... Amen | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by Greg Davis Mickey are you really from Zgharta?
Didn't you hear of the 3shash monastry massacre, or the 7eylan massacre or when the palestinians would constantly attack mount terbol etc.
Didn't you know those villages are in the Zghorta area, or haven't you been informed of the grim truth.
As to protection measures taken in Zghorta, If it wasn't for the radical christian Sleiman Franjieh seniour Zghorta Property law that was imposed throught the civil war era until the early nineties that prevented non-christians from purchasing property in Zghorta , and that is what protected you're property .
Habibi we weren't in beirut nor were we glorifying Israel, our Church 'Saydat 3asoun' was blown up and our homes occupied because we were minority infadels. Our church bells were a symbol of satan and our woman uncovering their hair was a bad influence on the woman of the district.
I have no hatred towards anybody. As a matter of fact, one of my business partners is a Sunni 7abashi, and my Civil and airconditioning contractors are Shiites , so spare me the biggot label.
My philosophy in life is 'live and let live'. Respect others' right to disagree with you, and respect others' right to beleive in whatever the heck they want. I also beleive that partnerships cannot occur under duress, nor can a partnership work when a party intends to take advantage of the other. | Why are you invoking crimes and massacres whilst acting like your side didn't perpetrate far more, and more vicious massacres?
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I hope this member of the Jins 3atel will not be in a governement that support HA weapons.
Awlkon he will be in the gov and say: Ta7affazna 3ala el mokawama?
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