Israel will try to transfer over a million more Palestinian into Lebanon

[barid]

Originally Posted by johnnyFPM

What the US would typically do is create a war in the country, maybe vs. Iran and the following will follow:
- Israel will take the advantage to "clean" the south and bekaa for settlement. All eyes will be on the US - Iran war and international public opinion will have other priorities.
- At the same time, and because of this war, oil & gas prices will go up: the surplus value the GCC countries will be making during those few months of war will be used to finance the war and compensation for refugees after that.

End game: US and Israel don't pay, they make oil prices go up and hence GCC pay for them...

That would be ironic though, letting the arabs pay the compensations for the Israely arabic conflict. it is like I shoot you and your cousin pays the compensation. Really ironic.

[SISCO]

Originally Posted by Arze

No its not his imagination,, its a fact bass as long as you don't read and you don't listen and you don't believe except what your leader wanted to..
You're not going to understand shou 3am yssir in your surrounding.

Arze,

Who are my leaders ??? Do you even know me ???

I leave the understanding to you and your leaders !!

[SISCO]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

Israel is preparig itself today for the last part of its criminal project:Transforming the land it occupies into an exclusive jewish state.

The plan involves extermination and deportation of over a million "Israeli Arab".

Few months before July war,talks of "transfer" plans became public in Israel.

What followed was a deliberate "cleansing" of the South Litani territory,to provide enough space for the projected transfer.

But the plan was reported due to the massive failure and historic defeat.(Noticing that the call of Berri and SHN for southeners to quickly rush into their villages,was to counter the Israeli will, to keep the area inhabited for future use...)

The transfer plan is still under its way,and clearly confirmed by the recent visit of Bush to the zionist entity.

The question is this:Where will the Israelis finally decide to transfer the over 1 million Palestinians?

Is it towards Syria?Jordan?Lebanon?Egypt?

The answer is this:Israel will transfer the over 1 million Palestinians to where it will be the easiest territory to control.

So far,Jordan seems the elected country whose fate will be to disappear (Thanks to HA's deterrence)...unless Israel thinks that it has the capabilities to take control of South Lebanon....Then...And if it succeds...Lebanon will be no more.

My advice to all (And i mean all):Get ready for the next round,the round that will determine whether Israel or Lebanon will exist in the near future.

One thing is sure:If Israel attacks Lebanon once again,it will not be tactically spared from massive destruction,the way it was spared in July 2006...Not to forget the big surprise of course...

Lebanon is for Lebanese,and the days of foreign occupation and/or hegemony are over now...

Yes...We will resist and we will live in this country.It's ours and we will fight and keep it ours.



This country is for those who are willing to resist and to live in it-GMA

Abou Sandal,

It's not new that israel don't want the return of the palestinian and prefer to have them in arab countries !! but i needed sources due to some facts that you stated like "Putting the palestinians in the south after the july war", etc.

[jamez29]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

Israel is preparig itself today for the last part of its criminal project:Transforming the land it occupies into an exclusive jewish state.

The plan involves extermination and deportation of over a million "Israeli Arab".

Few months before July war,talks of "transfer" plans became public in Israel.

What followed was a deliberate "cleansing" of the South Litani territory,to provide enough space for the projected transfer.

But the plan was reported due to the massive failure and historic defeat.(Noticing that the call of Berri and SHN for southeners to quickly rush into their villages,was to counter the Israeli will, to keep the area inhabited for future use...)

The transfer plan is still under its way,and clearly confirmed by the recent visit of Bush to the zionist entity.

The question is this:Where will the Israelis finally decide to transfer the over 1 million Palestinians?

Is it towards Syria?Jordan?Lebanon?Egypt?

The answer is this:Israel will transfer the over 1 million Palestinians to where it will be the easiest territory to control.

So far,Jordan seems the elected country whose fate will be to disappear (Thanks to HA's deterrence)...unless Israel thinks that it has the capabilities to take control of South Lebanon....Then...And if it succeds...Lebanon will be no more.

My advice to all (And i mean all):Get ready for the next round,the round that will determine whether Israel or Lebanon will exist in the near future.

One thing is sure:If Israel attacks Lebanon once again,it will not be tactically spared from massive destruction,the way it was spared in July 2006...Not to forget the big surprise of course...

Lebanon is for Lebanese,and the days of foreign occupation and/or hegemony are over now...

Yes...We will resist and we will live in this country.It's ours and we will fight and keep it ours.



This country is for those who are willing to resist and to live in it-GMA

well I never heard by this intend to transferee one million Palestinians all I know Israel love to get rid from all the Arab inside its borders but the question can they do it ?

[Dynamis]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

Israel is preparig itself today for the last part of its criminal project:Transforming the land it occupies into an exclusive jewish state.

The plan involves extermination and deportation of over a million "Israeli Arab".

Few months before July war,talks of "transfer" plans became public in Israel.

What followed was a deliberate "cleansing" of the South Litani territory,to provide enough space for the projected transfer.

But the plan was reported due to the massive failure and historic defeat.(Noticing that the call of Berri and SHN for southeners to quickly rush into their villages,was to counter the Israeli will, to keep the area inhabited for future use...)

The transfer plan is still under its way,and clearly confirmed by the recent visit of Bush to the zionist entity.

The question is this:Where will the Israelis finally decide to transfer the over 1 million Palestinians?

Is it towards Syria?Jordan?Lebanon?Egypt?

The answer is this:Israel will transfer the over 1 million Palestinians to where it will be the easiest territory to control.

So far,Jordan seems the elected country whose fate will be to disappear (Thanks to HA's deterrence)...unless Israel thinks that it has the capabilities to take control of South Lebanon....Then...And if it succeds...Lebanon will be no more.

My advice to all (And i mean all):Get ready for the next round,the round that will determine whether Israel or Lebanon will exist in the near future.

One thing is sure:If Israel attacks Lebanon once again,it will not be tactically spared from massive destruction,the way it was spared in July 2006...Not to forget the big surprise of course...

Lebanon is for Lebanese,and the days of foreign occupation and/or hegemony are over now...

Yes...We will resist and we will live in this country.It's ours and we will fight and keep it ours.



This country is for those who are willing to resist and to live in it-GMA

Thank you!

Hallelujiah!

I have been talking about this for two years. The one that really nailed it was Azmi Bsharah...He is the one that really uncovered it for the first time...

All,
Use your common sense to understand which people in the Middle East will be most hurt by the relocation of 2 million palestenians to Lebanon, and Syria mostly...Jordan will not take them.

If you use logic, you will understand the current alliances in the face of this evil Zionist plan backed by the NeoCons...

All the dynamics on the Lebanese and Middle Eastern scene become apparent.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by SISCO

Abou Sandal,

It's not new that israel don't want the return of the palestinian and prefer to have them in arab countries !! but i needed sources due to some facts that you stated like "Putting the palestinians in the south after the july war", etc.

Did you read what i posted for you?

Look,there is no need to discuss anything with you as long as you keep on adopting such "un-willing" attitude.

Everything is very well established and documented...now you go educate yourself about such issues, because frankly i have better things to do.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by jamez29

well I never heard by this intend to transferee one million Palestinians all I know Israel love to get rid from all the Arab inside its borders but the question can they do it ?

That's a fair question.

I guess that it will depend on the capability of each surrounding country to repell any taking off by Israel,of a portion of its territory for such purposes.

But a more interesting question would be:Do they think that they can do it?

Because if they still think that they can do it in Lebanon,then we better start preparing ourselves really hard.

[Abou Sandal]

An interesting perspective would have been to consider an Israeli intent to exchange between the Syrian Golan,and a massive Palestinian transfer towards it.

But the Israeli greed commands it to keep the Golan...This greed will ultimately seal the fate of Israel...

[Zehlawi]

Originally Posted by Dynamis

Thank you!

Hallelujiah!

I have been talking about this for two years. The one that really nailed it was Azmi Bsharah...He is the one that really uncovered it for the first time...

All,
Use your common sense to understand which people in the Middle East will be most hurt by the relocation of 2 million palestenians to Lebanon, and Syria mostly...Jordan will not take them.

If you use logic, you will understand the current alliances in the face of this evil Zionist plan backed by the NeoCons...

All the dynamics on the Lebanese and Middle Eastern scene become apparent.

Dynamis, Jordan was going to get stock with the majority of the Palestinian if Sharon had his way couple years back and then it was the change of plans to use Lebanon (don't be too surprise if Hariri's killing wasn't part of starting this process). There were some Israelis bragging, during the July war, that there is some vacant land till the Litani if anyone is interested. Well their calculation was slightly changed after their defeat. Now all yustor from the palestinian camps ma3ma3a this is their last card with the blessing of the Saudis offcourse. Let's wait and see maybee poor Jordan will have to get them after all

[elias-aj]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

Not even this.

The US foreign policy doesn't consider Lebanon as a country,but as a territory.

And I am of those who think that the US and Israel are not really that generous,even if it's paid from the Arabs pockets.So they will not only try to settle the Palestinian refugees that we already have,for free,but will also send us some more...much much more.

If Palestinian refugees are settled in Lebanon,then it means that there is no more Lebanon...Which means that nobody would then care about making it up for us.

So here goes the compensation too...

The funny thing is that instead of resisting and joining us in the fight,Egypt and Jordan will fully help Israel in its plans to transfer as much Palestinians as possible on our lands...should this option be adopted once more...Just like the "loyalists" (to this plan) will...

Today it is important for us to realize that we are lucky to have been able, 2 years ago, to counter the offensive plan that would have ultimately destroyed Lebanon.

The next round seems to be very near...

Abou Sandal,

We have to be pragmatic with the issue of the palestinian refugees. Lebanon committed the mistakes before the 75' civil war when we :

- authorized so many palestinians to stay in Lebanon while we were not able to welcome them or at least, as many people ; as a result, palestinian civilians are not treated the way they deserve to be treated and we can't afford to improve their situation ;
- allowed the PLO to establish their fatah land ;
- allowed the PLO and the fedayin to fight their war against Israel from our territory and signed the Cairo Agreement.

Then, Lebanon was no more a real state. It was a shattered country during the civil war, then a divided country and eventually, an occupied land shared between Syria and Israel.

We were deprived of political decision and we're still deprived of any political decision due to our political division.

Do the US consider Lebanon as "a territory" ? They're totally right. "Freedom, independance and sovereignity" is an empty slogan for now.

As much as some want to resist the tawtin or even any attempt of transfer by the israelis, what could they do ?

Another war ? This will lead to another civil war and definitely destroy Lebanon.

The strongest way to resist is to build a real and strong lebanese state. Because with a real and strong lebanese state, the U.S., Israel and the western and arab countries will have a negotiating partner, talking on behalf of the lebanese people. Something that does not exist for now : now they talk to Hariri, to Berri, to Jumblatt etc.

Actually, who is bringing up the palestinian issue ? GMA and SHN. Do they represent Lebanon or only the christians and the shia communities in the eyes of the US and rival states ? This is the problem.

Once again, we have to focus on our most crucial issue, the reconstruction of the lebanese state, if we want to have a word to say.

Otherwise, may we like or not, we won't have a word to say regarding the palestinian refugees, our issues with Israel, our issues with Syria etc.

Anyway, we'll see how our politicians will handle the situation...