Israel: what is the REALISTIC solution?

[Dalzi]

I voted one.

زوال دولة (لا شعب) إسرائيل أمر حتمي

[Shia4lyf]

Israel will vanish under the impact of the resistence, its only matter of time.
Thats what we believe and thats whats going to happen.

[Abufijli]

I fully and truely believe resistance will eliminate Israel's existence, I am not talking about the slaughter of Israeli's, I would not condone that, but I believe continous resistance keeps the pressure on a system that is unjust from the core up, which will eventually break it, I can already see cracks in it today.

Let us be realistic, a two state solution is total BS and not viable, there are hardly any modertaes in Israel, they have been brought up on blood and will coninue to be this way unless their mentality is changed by force.

Yes, we can eliminate the unjust state of Israel.

[syrian]

if a solution to middle eastern countries is brought, then israel will automatically get eliminated...

i mean bringing true democracy so that syria, lebanon, iraq and jordan become able to develop their economy and military so that they do not need to be subordinated to the will of the US or another party...

only then, their political decision will be daring enough and their military will be strong enough to wipe israel out..

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by syrian

if a solution to middle eastern countries is brought, then israel will automatically get eliminated...

i mean bringing true democracy so that syria, lebanon, iraq and jordan become able to develop their economy and military so that they do not need to be subordinated to the will of the US or another party...

only then, their political decision will be daring enough and their military will be strong enough to wipe israel out..

We already have our democracy in Lebanon, and Syria supports the resistance, other than that we'll be aiming for the Amercian type of BS my shoe democracy. That 'hashimi' in Jordan should be blown to Mars along with other American appointed zionist leaders. What we need is to revive the strenght in being united, be it under one dictator i don't give a flying hoot as long as he's against that murderous entity called israel. The Arab nation needs strong leadership that not only opposes but MOVES against Israel. You'll see the chickens turn to flocks of migrating birds when they see us united and strong.

[Red Phoenix]

Moderates from both sides will prevail and reach a compromise solution.

and by moderates i say ppl out of the resistance and israeli higher echelon who will find the conditions appropriate for a compromise that would please everyone with a high sense of responsibility. not the self proclaimed moderate crooks we have now nor irresponsible israeli criminal leadership.

that's my option and i tend to see it as the only long shot option that doesn't involve an Armageddon scenario. but allow me to add, i find it really difficult to happen cuz the right men are lacking in many places. what we have are lots of criminals and loads of hypocrites playing heroes.

believe it or not, i find SHN as a strong leader that can bring just peace to this region only and after only on the israeli side someone of his caliber and sense of responsibility can be found. to put it bluntly, Israel needs to change face and be a normal country and in that respect so should all other revolting Arab regimes.

but when i see mostly criminals in the israeli leadership and mostly crooks in the Arab regimes i can only sigh at the desperate magnitude of our problems.

i just don't think anyone can eliminate anyone unless it's Apocalypse Now.
but political and ground battles can yield good results if we have responsible ppl at the helm.

short case in point, the battle of 2006 could have yielded much greater results for Lebanon and Israel if in Lebanon we didn’t have opportunistic turncoats and in Israel we didn’t have warmongers.

just peace is achievable but only after we take away the crooks who always try to mess it up.

[Dalzi]

Moderates from both sides will prevail and reach a compromise solution.

You forget that all the Israelis have held a weapon, men and women, there are hardly any moderates in Israel. If you are moderate, you wouldn't have the disease of "I can only live with Jews", and you'd refuse to be a citizen in a state that oppresses the majority of people on its land. Moderate and Zionist contradict. Moderation ratio: 2 Israelis and the millions of Palestians. That's what we mean by the state of Israel will end. Only humans will be able to live with humans.

[ArabJew]

i voted 4. we'll never be able to kill off the resistance as an Idea, nor will the arab world be able to wipe off jewish self-determination as an idea. and since there's simply no viable peaceful solution to co-habitation (theoretically speaking, lebanon is the model. and that's why today's lebanon is a broken country after a civil war and completely jew-free. and already there are more lebanese christians abroad than in lebanon. nope, never going to work), nothing is going to change.

[Mar1K]

Originally Posted by ArabJew

i voted 4. we'll never be able to kill off the resistance as an Idea, nor will the arab world be able to wipe off jewish self-determination as an idea. and since there's simply no viable peaceful solution to co-habitation (theoretically speaking, lebanon is the model. and that's why today's lebanon is a broken country after a civil war and completely jew-free. and already there are more lebanese christians abroad than in lebanon. nope, never going to work), nothing is going to change.

The question is how long will you last there... Your immigration to europe and such already started... Worry about yourself before you worry about Lebanon.
Lebanon has conquered wars and conflicts for thousands of years, you have not celebrated a 100 years yet and people are already leaving

[ArabJew]

Originally Posted by Mar1K

The question is how long will you last there... Your immigration to europe and such already started... Worry about yourself before you worry about Lebanon.
Lebanon has conquered wars and conflicts for thousands of years, you have not celebrated a 100 years yet and people are already leaving

that's a good question. let's wait and see. israel's immigration rate is still positive, while for most other countries in the area it is negative. not to mention the various african jew groups such as the igbo and indian jew groups such as bnei menashe.