Israel Beware

[Mar1K]

كان الله بعون المدنيين في الحرب المقبلة
اما المستوطنين... فهذا بعض مما جنت ايديهم عليهم

اطال الله بعمرك يا سيدنا و يا مولانا و نحن واثقون اننا سنرى النصر الحاسم بأم العين

[SamerTayyar]

Originally Posted by hiptanaka

im glad this was brought up so people can re evaluate the entire Hezbollah-Palestinian dynamic. There's a LOT more where that Wahabi fanatic came from in Palestine, including from Hamas themselves. SHN's passionate speeches notwithstanding, Hezbollah will never take it upon themselves to "liberate Jersualem". They exist only to survive and a raison d'etre of that mold lends itself not to wars of liberation but merely to deterrence and territorial consolidation. Hezbollah does not trust Hamas and engage in the facade of unity only to ensure Israel does not perceive this difference as a drawback of sorts.

To be honest, I doubt HA subscribes to the entire "right of return" mantra regarding the Palestinian refugees. They are adept at sounding diplomatic but deep down they could anticipate any potential sectarian antagonism (like that of the bearded fellow) of the majority of the current 600 000 plus Palestinian refugees. Their rejection of Palestinian naturalization does not have a philanthropic or moral basis but rather a purely instinctual, if sectarian one.

They arent dumb to believe they can liberate Jerusalem, theyve always used

these slogans and fiery speeches about the Palestenians thinking that they

would get some Arab political support for once. The Arab regimes coverage

for Israel's war on Lebanon in 2006 was sort of appaling to HA's leadership,

thats why SHN started attacking those regimes publically for the first time,

and that explains what they did in Egypt.

We should always go back to July war events and notice the disgusting systematic

bombardment of the south that led to the displacement 1 million shiite from

the south and other places.

The Arab regimes and the Israelis had common interests in launching this war:

- finishing off any sort of armed resistance to Israel's hegemony in the region
- the displacement of the shiites to Iraq and Syria
- the easiest way to naturalise the palestenians

HA knows that the heavily armed palestenians in the camps arent there to

liberate Palestine, but they will be used sooner or later to fight them. This

is why I believe that the future is very bleak, the arab regimes might inflame

the camps and the next war would be a palestenian/HA one and HA would

have to fight on several fronts and Israel would greatly benefit from it.

[zoomzoom]

Originally Posted by SamerTayyar

They arent dumb to believe they can liberate Jerusalem, theyve always used

these slogans and fiery speeches about the Palestenians thinking that they

would get some Arab political support for once. The Arab regimes coverage

for Israel's war on Lebanon in 2006 was sort of appaling to HA's leadership,

thats why SHN started attacking those regimes publically for the first time,

and that explains what they did in Egypt.

We should always go back to July war events and notice the disgusting systematic

bombardment of the south that led to the displacement 1 million shiite from

the south and other places.

The Arab regimes and the Israelis had common interests in launching this war:

- finishing off any sort of armed resistance to Israel's hegemony in the region
- the displacement of the shiites to Iraq and Syria
- the easiest way to naturalise the palestenians

HA knows that the heavily armed palestenians in the camps arent there to

liberate Palestine, but they will be used sooner or later to fight them. This

is why I believe that the future is very bleak, the arab regimes might inflame

the camps and the next war would be a palestenian/HA one and HA would

have to fight on several fronts and Israel would greatly benefit from it.

Samer, I don't see a sizable Palestinian force would ever engage HA. HA is well respected among Palestinians and had the Saudi/Jordanian/Egyptian regimes been able to find that good portion of Palestine camp population who would be willing to fight HA, they would have done it by now. Hariris tried to fund some Al-Qaeda scums and use them to fight Lebanese and HA but they failed misreably. Even among Fatah supporters HA is popular and some willing to go against Fatah leadership if they are to be used as dhimmis to fight HA.

[SamerTayyar]

Originally Posted by zoomzoom

Samer, I don't see a sizable Palestinian force would ever engage HA. HA is well respected among Palestinians and had the Saudi/Jordanian/Egyptian regimes been able to find that good portion of Palestine camp population who would be willing to fight HA, they would have done it by now. Hariris tried to fund some Al-Qaeda scums and use to fight Lebanese and HA but they failed misreably. Even among Fatah supporters HA is popular and some willing to go against Fatah leadership if they are to be used as dhimmis to fight HA.

zoomzoom, we both know that supporters and the palestenian people wont

have a say in such a confrontation. The islamist militias are free to roam around

the palestenian camps and spread their idealogy and impose their power, people will follow simply

because they dont have any other choice, since the militias are the ones

getting paid by Bahiyya and the Saudis.

[J. Abizeid]

Must see!!!!
An honest hour and fifty two minutes of chilling history by Noam Chomsky describing Israel’s actions in the Middle East over Lebanon and Palestine with the support and the protection of the International community;
http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/645

[joseph_lubnan]

What is the point of this thread!!?? What is the "discussion" about?

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by >Watani<

حزب الله والتيار الوطني الحرّ تخطوّ ورقة التفاهم إلى طريق أبعد وهو التحالف، فالعودة لهدفهم الأول والأخير لم يعد هناك من فيتو عليه، وإلاّ لسمعنا التيار الوطني الحرّ يعلقّ على أحداث مصر ويتكلمّ بصراحة عن أسباب تعطيل تشكيل الحكومة ولا يسمح لأحد بوضع باسيل في الواجهة فقط، كصورة إعلانية

Remember the days when you used to say proudly and with conviction: It is not an alliance, only an understanding...

[theMightyRedV]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

What is the point of this thread!!?? What is the "discussion" about?

That "israel" executing the coming war is inevitable and the lions of the Lebanese resistance will this time unleash a fury unseen in memory, as a matter of principle!!

[MarcoPolo10452]

Israel is one of the strongest armies in the world. I hate it like all you do, but let's deal with facts, Hezbollah is not going to destroy them. Israel at its best could kill all 4 million of us. Let's not get confident.

We know Israel very well. They will kill 30 civilians if 1 Hezbollah fighter is among them. If Israel has to kill half the Jnoub to eliminate Hezbollah they will do it w they have the power to do it.

I have no confidence in Hezbollah. At all. Not simply because I don't like Hezbollah, but because facts are facts. Hezbollah is strong now. But it's not THAT strong.

[theMightyRedV]

Originally Posted by MarcoPolo10452

Israel is one of the strongest armies in the world. I hate it like all you do, but let's deal with facts, Hezbollah is not going to destroy them. Israel at its best could kill all 4 million of us. Let's not get confident.

We know Israel very well. They will kill 30 civilians if 1 Hezbollah fighter is among them. If Israel has to kill half the Jnoub to eliminate Hezbollah they will do it w they have the power to do it.

I have no confidence in Hezbollah. At all. Not simply because I don't like Hezbollah, but because facts are facts. Hezbollah is strong now. But it's not THAT strong.

So the question is Marco, when "israel" initiates the coming war, WILL you stand up and support the Lebanese Resistance against "israel"?

"israel" has the artillery to eliminate every arab city - but if you know "israelis" by nature, they fear their own life more than anything. When they face a people who will challenge them on a more equal footing, do you know what plays in their mind? If they are cowards when we have nothing to fight with, how do you think they feel when we have at our disposal something unseen to them and the world? What do you think goes on in an "israeli" mind when they know the balance of power will shift?

Is the Lebanese Resistance a people who will wilt to destruction? If destruction is what "israelis" have always used to force the resistance to submit, have they not always failed?

When your faith is in your Creator, and the men who the Creator appointed as your beacons of light to follow and uphold - you will NEVER submit.

So enjoy the show when it comes. This time round, there will be more destruction unleashed on the people of the resistance (you know, the people who love death and don't value life...). You either support the lions of the resistance, or you dont. This time round though, what the resistance has at its disposal by the grace of the Creator will crush the snakes head. And the head of the tools "israel" will use within Lebanon.

Surely it is the people who die with dignity as opposed to living in humiliation who will succeed.