Israel Beware

[>Watani<]

Originally Posted by shevchenco

ha is one of the most transparent resistances in the world. Their goals are as clear as it can get. Secondly, ha is not starting the war, it's only a reaction.

As for the second point, how its activities are broadening? In what aspect? Bil3akes, it's shrinking down. Wasn't liberating jerusalem one of ha's major goals before the mou?

حزب الله والتيار الوطني الحرّ تخطوّ ورقة التفاهم إلى طريق أبعد وهو التحالف، فالعودة لهدفهم الأول والأخير لم يعد هناك من فيتو عليه، وإلاّ لسمعنا التيار الوطني الحرّ يعلقّ على أحداث مصر ويتكلمّ بصراحة عن أسباب تعطيل تشكيل الحكومة ولا يسمح لأحد بوضع باسيل في الواجهة فقط، كصورة إعلانية

[shevchenco]

Originally Posted by >Watani<

حزب الله والتيار الوطني الحرّ تخطوّ ورقة التفاهم إلى طريق أبعد وهو التحالف، فالعودة لهدفهم الأول والأخير لم يعد هناك من فيتو عليه، وإلاّ لسمعنا التيار الوطني الحرّ يعلقّ على أحداث مصر ويتكلمّ بصراحة عن أسباب تعطيل تشكيل الحكومة ولا يسمح لأحد بوضع باسيل في الواجهة فقط، كصورة إعلانية

Actually this is a good point. the alliance between FPM and HA has reached a level similar to that of the alliance between HA and amal. this was proven in the last parliamentary elections.

back in the days, prior to Feb 14 2005, there was a mutual agreement between HA and Amal which states that HA are responsible for all military actions and amal are responsible for all the political ones. ie: if some random guy from amal launched a rocket towards israel, HA were to take the blame for any reactions. similarly, any internal conflict was the responsibility of amal.


that agreement was mainly based on sectarian basis; whereas now, apparently, this agreement has changed a bit. now HA are getting involved in internal politics more and more and on the other side, the "resistance's back" is not only protected by amal, but also by other Lebanese compatriots, such as FPM and Marada (and this was proven in July 2006). now this agreement is based on the interest of lebanese as a whole.

so, if the information you provided is correct, then both HA and FPM are just implementing this agreement: FPM are covering for HA (but this doesn't mean I agree with your information as lebanese politics are as complicated as hell) and on the other hand, HA are agreeing and supporting all of FPM's political demands without any hesitation.

[hiptanaka]

Originally Posted by SamerTayyar

guys please dont fall for the fiery speeches that some might come with

for show of power and strength in the media war. Hizballa doesnt want to liberate Jerusalem

or attack Israel, Hizballa's biggest enemy is the Arab regimes.

Lets say Hizballa liberates Jerusalem, who would come into power in Palestine?

do you think that the new Palestenian King would let a shiite

black turban cleric enter Jerusalem afterwards? Do you think that the

Palestenian King wouldnt have interests in the South of Lebanon and

deal with the shiites better than the Israelis? All of this talk about

Palestenian "brothers" and such by Hizbolla officials and supporters

is BS. They have one goal and that is to survive in this middle east.

Originally Posted by shevchenco

This is very true. even if HA were able to liberate Jerusalem, arab clergy men (well not all of them) would start yelling and threatening and BSing on the danger of shi'ism the same way kabani was doing on May 7th. for example, sheflak hal mou3ak from Gaza during the last israeli war on Gaza on HAMAS TV (and yes the host didn't stop him):

im glad this was brought up so people can re evaluate the entire Hezbollah-Palestinian dynamic. There's a LOT more where that Wahabi fanatic came from in Palestine, including from Hamas themselves. SHN's passionate speeches notwithstanding, Hezbollah will never take it upon themselves to "liberate Jersualem". They exist only to survive and a raison d'etre of that mold lends itself not to wars of liberation but merely to deterrence and territorial consolidation. Hezbollah does not trust Hamas and engage in the facade of unity only to ensure Israel does not perceive this difference as a drawback of sorts.

To be honest, I doubt HA subscribes to the entire "right of return" mantra regarding the Palestinian refugees. They are adept at sounding diplomatic but deep down they could anticipate any potential sectarian antagonism (like that of the bearded fellow) of the majority of the current 600 000 plus Palestinian refugees. Their rejection of Palestinian naturalization does not have a philanthropic or moral basis but rather a purely instinctual, if sectarian one.

[Hye4Lebanon]

Originally Posted by SamerTayyar

take a close look at Lebanon's location on the world's map-

in fact, take an even closer look at Lebanon's location on the world's map
..............................

HELLO!!!! you're in the middle east!

Hello we are in the middle east??

Is that all you have to say?

You convinced me Samer...wow.

[Dalzi]

If war is inevitable, then there's nothing we can do to avoid it, or is there? Best thing to do is to be emotionally prepared to lose 70% of those you know But most importantly is that we emerge victorious, which no doubt we will. I do not have even 1% fear that we will lose, on the contrary. Whatever the price be, so be it. And if only one person remains, he'll get the chance to smell freedom on top of those southern hills. W ne7na benhayyeslo mnel 2aber

Originally Posted by Mar1K

How is someone going to be afraid from an Israeli if he is not afraid from death?
Rubbish...

She probably thinks she's talking to Jews.

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by BOILER

Do you think Israel would surrender to the Hizb or something?
It will be a total destructive war.
Both countries and probably others will be wiped off.
Something like Hiroshima.

The big question is, maybe we should open a seperate thread for this, will HA consider themselves victorious if both lebanese and Israeli human beings are vanished from this piece of earth?
Meeting the Mahdi as you said.

I'd avoid being sarcastic about what we believe if I were you ;)

They enter, we're going in. Simple. They can't use nuclear on you when you're among them unless they want to kill themselves. If you think that borders are going to remain borders if Israel is going to try wiping us out, you're very mistaken.

And yes, we will prevail. Live to see that.

[Observer]

سيستمر الصراع حتى يأتي جيل ويحسم هذا الصراع.

[hannaalsayssa]

i believe we should defeat the saudi led terrorists first

as this will weaken their masters the israelis and make them think twice before attacking us.

our great weakness are the traitors among us,and sadly they are abundant in lebanon and the region.

[SputNik]

Israel will be gambling with it's existence on the next up-coming war so i guess they'll be thinking a billion times before doing anything big, however that doesn't mean a new war is far ahead, it might happen sooner than we think people are already fleeing Israel and foreigners avoiding coming back the only way to stop this bleeding is by letting their community trust their army institution again which won't happen unless they engage HA in a war that would end with their victory and that's further than impossible, you can beat an army but you can never beat a resistance.

[Observer]

والله اني لرضعت حبي لفلسطين و للقدس وسنرضعه لاولادنا و سياتي يوم و يكون الفيصل ويفرق فيه كل امر ذي بال لنا في فلسطين