The Iranian Diplomats - What is Geagea Afraid Of?

[J_Raad1450]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

I was mainly referring to the grassroots/base

...and is that unethical? wrong? misleading? crime? I don't see why raising this issue is milking something...geagea kidnapped and killed four diplomats...

Anyway, according to geageaists, geagea did the killing of the diplomats to avenge people who were killed in 1984 and 1988...I believe geageaists are presenting an insurmountable defense…also geagea killed the diplomats in 1982 because HA killed the French ambassador in 1981…very logical…maybe if geageaists admit what geagea did was criminal, then you can introduce your milking theory…till then, geagea was just performing his national duty!

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by J_Raad1450

...and is that unethical? wrong? misleading? crime? I don't see why raising this issue is milking something...geagea kidnapped and killed four diplomats...

Anyway, according to geageaists, geagea did the killing of the diplomats to avenge people who were killed in 1984 and 1988...I believe geageaists are presenting an insurmountable defense…also geagea killed the diplomats in 1982 because HA killed the French ambassador in 1981…very logical…maybe if geageaists admit what geagea did was criminal, then you can introduce your milking theory…till then, geagea was just performing his national duty!

JR, I am presenting my personal opinion about what I consider as an over-discussed topic.. I would be more interested in discussing how the different parties will tackle socio-economic issues on their agendas.

So beyond your inherent right to express yourself about a public figure (something that I agree upon); if your focus is to change the opinion of "geageaists" about their leader, not much is happening in that regard, specifically in the way the topic is presented.

[orange infection]

Originally Posted by J_Raad1450

DI, my brother, at some point, was kidnapped by geagea on Barbara check point, just like those diplomats...my brother's fate could have end up as the Iranian’s diplomats fate if forceful intervention was not carried out immediately from our part.

The Iranian diplomats issue gives me a chance to shed a light on geagea’s behavior. Is this a legitimate election tactic? Do you think geagea past action is relevant?

my father 3askareh mouta2a3id
during the war between the lebanese army and lebanese forces my dad was held prisonner by the lf
they didn't release him and tried to make him fight for them (back at that era many members of the army defected to LF , mostly because of the money :) )
anyway my dad refused and a LF big leader from our village , 3eref eno bayeh was held prisonner bas ma ken ya3erfo la bayeh , so he (3a mas2ouliyto) let my dad go ....
and the next day my dad was back fighting with the lebanese army
and i know if it wasn't for that man , my dad would have been executed maybe , who knows......

despite that , i don't feel like you ya man......i will recopy what i wrote in an earlier post about this

this iranian diplomats thing is a joke
la iran fer2a ma3a wala lebnen
it's just something that opposition like to mention from time to time just an excuse to attack geagea msh aktar
and honestly , i think that every time they attack geagea because of this issue they are doing him a favor more than they are hurting him
they are showing themselves as ppl who care more about these iranian diplomats then their lebanese ppl who are held prisonners or kidnapped
and that's the truth , and that's how i feel everytime 7ada men HA byefta7 hal sireh
and by the way geagea was right when he asked HA why didn't he worked with the government before 2005 about this issue , shou faya2oun 3laya halla2 and why throwing everything on the current government's shoulders

anyway , i felt like i had to reply you since we both had a member of the family taken by lf militias

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

AS, it is legitimate for any citizen to question the doings of any public figure.. the issue is political milking of such topics that overlook the actual agendas of each party.

I agree with you DI,yet for once,the one who opened the "milking" door on this one is not the one who opened the subject,but the one who first replied.

A simple honest reply could have avoided all this.

Look at how our friend, The Jade,waited till after Geagea gave us his famous press conference,days later after SHN's speech,till he opened a thread about the issue.

Who Da milking eh?

[ecce homo]

Originally Posted by orange infection

this iranian diplomats thing is a joke
la iran fer2a ma3a wala lebnen
it's just something that opposition like to mention from time to time just an excuse to attack geagea msh aktar
and honestly , i think that every time they attack geagea because of this issue they are doing him a favor more than they are hurting him
they are showing themselves as ppl who care more about these iranian diplomats then their lebanese ppl who are held prisonners or kidnapped
and that's the truth , and that's how i feel everytime 7ada men HA byefta7 hal sireh
and by the way geagea was right when he asked HA why didn't he worked with the government before 2005 about this issue , shou faya2oun 3laya halla2 and why throwing everything on the current government's shoulders

Where was Geagea before 2005 and what was the state of the LF?

[Dry Ice]

AS, I generally try to address such comments to all of my fellow Lebanese

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

AS, I generally try to address such comments to all of my fellow Lebanese

I know and agree,but sometimes you need specific illustrations.This is called an exception.

Like they say,"l'exception fait la regle"

[Illuminatus]

Originally Posted by ecce homo

Where was Geagea before 2005 and what was the state of the LF?

They could've added the 4 diplomat issue to Dany chamoun, saydit najat church, tony franjiyye etc...

It's not an excuse that he was in jail.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by Illuminatus

They could've added the 4 diplomat issue to Dany chamoun, saydit najat church, tony franjiyye etc...

It's not an excuse that he was in jail.

That was Syria and Hariri's call.Hezb had no saying in internal affairs.

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

That was Syria and Hariri's call.Hezb had no saying in internal affairs.

Back then Hezbollah was represented plenty by the Total control of Syrian occupier. There was not much difference between Syria and Hezbollah, and Hezbollah was content not being in the government and negotiating its needs and priorities through the Syrians. You think anyone on the planet believes your BS claim that poor old Hezbollah "had no saying in internal affairs" lol

Why do you think Hezbollah didn't enter the public political scene until after the occupier Syria, its closest ally after Iran, left the country?