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Originally Posted by Ra3ed lebanese tend mostly to discuss things that are "up to date" , eza ma7soubak Sa3ed opened tomorrow or today the files or the issue of any of those you mentioned, noone will stop you from opening and discussing those issues here. If you wish you can open the issue by yourself , shou Sa3ed a7san mennak  ... go ahead
Humaniterian issues was and still an improtant point for FPM and FPMer... FPM and FPMer through the last years were and still on the head of these issues, proud that we were not part of those who were kidnapping , la 3al hawiyyeh w la 3al jensiyyeh ... w la 3a lon el sha3er | There are people dying in Darfour, China, India, Somalia, Syria, Iran, US, Canada all because of political decisions.
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Originally Posted by Abou Sandal No offense,but you're a hypocrite sir.
SHN said that he is asking for information,not because he wanted to blame this or that,but just because there is a humanitarian issue that needs to be resolved.
In reaction to that,you decided to politicize the debate,and opened a thread saying that we should not care about those Iranians.
And when Samir Geagea,instead of simply cooperating to resolve this humanitarian issue,also himself,politicized the debate,decided to take it on to the political arena and transform this humanitarian issue,into an electoral pissing context...You approved every single step of it.
And now,when we decided to answer back to Geagea and analyze his stupid reaction,you come here and say:'We are losing time in politicizing the debate..."
The way i see it:
You are free to politicize debate about a humanitarian issue,but if we decide to discuss your POV,we get low in level,and you accuse us of politicizing it.
Hypocrisy at its best. | For "humanitarian reasons" and to avoid being the biggest "hypocrite" yourself you should also ask SHN (who ironically is the one bringing up this "humanitarian" issue in the first place) about all the westerns kidnappings and killings throughout the war, and about the reprehensible mass murder of the marines in the 80s and about a few terrorist attacks outside of Lebanon that he seems to be linked to as well. | | | | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to joseph_lubnan For This Useful Post: | | | Registered Member
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If SHN or SG or any other political leader was interested in humanitarian issues, we would have released the detainees in Syria long time ago !!! At least those are still alive and in very bad and non human conditions !
I agree with the Jade ! this is a pure political issue !!!!! The LF talks about the "masbaha" and HA replies with the Iranian diplomats !!! as we say in arabic: "Why going to their low level" | | | | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to SISCO For This Useful Post: | | | Orange Room Moderator
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Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan For "humanitarian reasons" and to avoid being the biggest "hypocrite" yourself you should also ask SHN (who ironically is the one bringing up this "humanitarian" issue in the first place) about all the westerns kidnappings and killings throughout the war, and about the reprehensible mass murder of the marines in the 80s and about a few terrorist attacks outside of Lebanon that he seems to be linked to as well. | The title of the thread and the question asked:
The Iranian Diplomats - What is Geagea Afraid Of?
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Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan For "humanitarian reasons" and to avoid being the biggest "hypocrite" yourself you should also ask SHN (who ironically is the one bringing up this "humanitarian" issue in the first place) about all the westerns kidnappings and killings throughout the war, and about the reprehensible mass murder of the marines in the 80s and about a few terrorist attacks outside of Lebanon that he seems to be linked to as well. | Eh,,,nice try.
Now back to the topic:
Why don't the LF tell us where they dumped the bodies so we can give them back to their families?
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this iranian diplomats thing is a joke
la iran fer2a ma3a wala lebnen
it's just something that opposition like to mention from time to time just an excuse to attack geagea msh aktar
and honestly , i think that every time they attack geagea because of this issue they are doing him a favor more than they are hurting him
they are showing themselves as ppl who care more about these iranian diplomats then their lebanese ppl who are held prisonners or kidnapped
and that's the truth , and that's how i feel everytime 7ada men HA byefta7 hal sireh
and by the way geagea was right when he asked HA why didn't he worked with the government before 2005 about this issue , shou faya2oun 3laya halla2 and why throwing everything on the current government's shoulders | | | | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to orange infection For This Useful Post: | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by Dark Angel no we're not. it is just like nothing pleases you anymore. why this and why that. you really dont see the human value behind bringing closure to this issue? and for your info, the respect of human rights is on FPM's charter, it doesn't say in fine print "applicable to Lebanese humans only"
there are 4 human beings missing, regardless of their nationality, their families deserve to know; and there is one man who can shed plenty of light on the subject, but he's not willing to fully cooperate, except in the media.the government, LF and HA should form a common committee and officially share the details they have in their possession. as to samir geagea himself, 4 people are very insignificant relatively to the huge numbers of people he decimated.
the problem here isn't samir, it is you. if the thread was closed you would be like "i cant believe tayyar is violating freedom of speech" if the thread was approved "i cant believe this thread was open on tayyar forum"
you can comment on the subject as much as you want without involving FPM. |
Since FPM cares so much about all human lives, and particularly these 4 Iranias, why didn't Aoun ask for their bodies at any point before today? From 1990-2009, we never heard FPM asking for the 4 Iranians (they asked for the Lebanese killed by LF and others but not the 4 Iranians), why ? | | | | | Registered Member
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I seriously dont care about those diplomates because when you become a diplomate, you are part of the so called politicians and I dont really care about any politician's life in this whole world. But because this thing happened in Lebanon, even if they are europeens or african or north american politicians, the governement should invistigate more about it. But since this same governement is lying everywhere and anywhere and its against Iran as well, you will never see where the hell their bodies are. So from there, I belive if Geagea did it and murdered them, he will be scared to go back to prison and not be able to continue pursuiting lebanese politics. Lets wait and see what the futur will reserve and who is gonna win the elections , the opposition or the actual majority. If it is the oposition, every majority criminal will go in jail and we would never heard them saying anything in public anymore and if the actual majority wins, we will never hear about any criminal case from the past from Lebanese detainees in syria's prisons and from the majority of political murders that happened in the past 30 years. | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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