How have I come to Love these Diversions

[YOSS]

Originally Posted by Libnene Qu7

Thank God for this move. Seriously, Lebanese partying has gotten way out of hand. The last time I went out in Lebanon was during my visit last summer. I couldn't believe that parties started at midnight! Don't these folks have lives and things to do the next day??

That should be up to them m3allim. Not up to us, or the state, to set a curfew for them. Each people have a lifestyle, and we still produce well and evolve well, and only wars and regional conflicts cause us to spoil our plans.

But to say 'we need this curfew', is kinda absurd.

I salute minister Baroud for yet another decision into inching this country ever so slowly towards normalcy. We need more people like him in power!!

What is normalcy? Who sets it? and who says the western one is the correct one? you might find it is farrrr from it.

By they way, Yoss, no one parties harder than New York City. And even they have a regulation to close at 2am. Furthermore, I utterly fail to see how this rule in any way violates Christian rights. Zhe2na Christian nagging on every single little thing.

No one parties harder then NY? I seriously doubt that Sir. And plz read my p.s.: above about this Christian right thingy coz I never said so.

[YOSS]

Originally Posted by zodiac

Great move by ministers Baroud and Marouni.. and a long waited one!!
Seriously its really odd to find places where parties starts at 2:00 AM!!!
Hope owners will commit to the new regulations!

Why is that odd? Shoo 'aherkoun entou? As long as u're able to sleep, no noise, let others do as they please.

Initial steps towards slavery to commercial entities and you are enjoying the ride. Weird, and kinda disturbing.

[YOSS]

Originally Posted by Yensoun

1) What do nightclubs and bars have to do with anything Christian. In fact most of what happens in bars and night clubs is un-Christian.

A real Christian in fact would not even go to a night club to avoid the occasion of sin, since it is wrong to even put oneself in tempting situations even if one does not have an intention to sin.

A major problem in the Middle East is the WRONG, WRONG, WRONG perception that Christians are: cool, party, wear mini-skirts and drink alcohol.

These have nothing to do with Chirstianity, in fact the Christian truth calls on its faithful to adhere to a life of modesty, prudence, chastity and temperance. The daily internal battle that is the Christian truth is a demanding and fulfilling one. It has no place for frivolities.

2) It is absolutely astounding that the Lebanese live such lifestyles. It's not just the young. Across all ages there is a thick, destructive atmosphere of excess. Maybe the Lebanese living in Lebanon should all be forced to emigrate to learn how to work hard, be forced to pay bloody taxes and adhere to the rule of law. Whilst the Lebanese who have had it really tough abroad, should be brought back and should run the country.

There is nothing wrong with having fun, but the Lebanese in Lebanon really take it too far. There is so much more to life. It is really shocking when you see 18 year olds driving expensive cars and living a luxurious life. What kind of citizens will they develop into.

It is not about being cool. Each one that took my "Christian" words in my intial post and assigned it an exclusive right to object to this, and assigned it "coolness and hipness" misunderstood that initial post - and I am sorry for that.

I never said it is a Christian right thingy.. I said the ones with the most leverage to block it is them. Who do you expect to object to this? Berri? Nasralla? SSNP? Jombie? Saad? Who?

This has been a lifeline to Lebanon throughout it's history & wars: its good taste, creativity, style, etc. This kind of regulation carves into that... I am also sorry some cannot see that.

[YOSS]

The importance and the consequences of such a change is being underestimated.

This approach taken by some and justifying it as sound 'noise' regulation are digging their heads in the sand. Clubs causing noise can be asked to improve sound proofing or move; pay fines in the interim, etc. And I'm yet to understand why restaurants & pubs need to be shut down too.

As for street noise? Divert traffic. Many cities do that, a busy commercial at night street is closed from 6 to 6 in extreme cases; opened only to pedestrians.

But outright setting a regulation for across the nation, all venues to close down at specific hours, and so, even in non residential areas, is a clear sign of the real intentions of such regulation. ... Kid yourselves not.

Of course, when we see something happen that exists in the West, we the Lebanese go: "Well, that is progress". And we don't see how we are kept busy with nonsense while some are changing our nation from behind the scenes. What is normal for the West, is not normal for us. Your flame is being extinguished and you're unaware of it.

See that line you kept saying throughout the years: "Amazing the Lebanese people, war, bad economy, no jobs, etc, and yet the partying goes on all night and in style"? That line kept the population going believe it or not. Eh kiss it goodbye.

And you'll kiss it goodbye, with knowing it's consequences only after it's too late.

[Libnene Qu7]

Yoss, you seem to ignore the fact that most people like to party from 10pm to 1 or 2am. The current problem is that in Lebanon they start at midnight and end at 5am. If it takes a law to organize this, as in every developed country, then good and thanks for the minister and MP's in charge.

[Zayn]

They tried this last year and it failed miserably less than a month or so later.

[Libnene Qu7]

Originally Posted by Zayn

They tried this last year and it failed miserably less than a month or so later.

Everything in Lebanon related to civilized mannerisms fails miserably. Look:

• Safe driving rules (seatbelt, traffic lights, drunk driving, high beam on, child seat, etc.)
• Non-smoking in public buildings (ink on paper)
• Trucks and lorries driving at specific times
• Broadband internet (a dream that will stay a dream)
• Unified history of Lebanon book
• Buses stopping only and bus stops (which is why a 30 minutes ride takes 2 and a half hours)
• People standing in line at the bank/public office/cinema tickets/etc...
• Lebanese passengers staying seated in the plane after it stops and turns off the seatbelt sign (never ever happens)
• [feel free to expand this list]

[YOSS]

Originally Posted by Libnene Qu7

Yoss, you seem to ignore the fact that most people like to party from 10pm to 1 or 2am. The current problem is that in Lebanon they start at midnight and end at 5am. If it takes a law to organize this, as in every developed country, then good and thanks for the minister and MP's in charge.

10-2 is not a fact; and certainly not an indicator. If there was reason to remain open, then it should not be regulated.

"If it takes a law to organize this"... Says who it needs to be organized? Says who a club or pub open until 5 am is a lack of organization?

To each their own - you wanna be "organized", go home early. If I wanna be less "organized", I should have the choice.