How Hariri won the elections

[coralie]

Originally Posted by Spider

Simple....He is smart ;)

no he is corrupt

Originally Posted by leb-wi-noss

Do you allow me to post all the youtubes that shows why Nasrallah failed? To show you why "Hariri won".

still you will end up showing us he is currupt and even much more better not try you might find how much he is worse then corrupt .

Originally Posted by Kurt

One of the reasons could be that he's cool headed and doesn't confront others violently. I have to admit though when he first started politics he was a rookie but the man seems to have potentials.

yeah sure a very important potential of corruption

Originally Posted by Kurt

Correction to the thread title: It wasn't Hariri who won the elections but the coallition of M14 did. Think about it.

of course the whole most corrupted bunch

Originally Posted by Rooney

ridiculous

95 planes ???? Rafic Hariri airport can't handle this amount , they have a maximum of 22 gates !

we are really happy we managed to make you laugh . go check the airport landings reports between saturday and sunday morning then come w t7efna .

Originally Posted by Nasser

Maybe you should try to appeal the people more , calling them names won't help. They can just say the same about the people who voted for you.

smalla 3alaykon ma bet asro with our people you did not leave for us a bad word to use to name your people you even invented new insults to use against our people . 3an jad chou we27in !


what is amazing is the power of the loyalists followers to cheer for every thing wrong they never even try to admit it is bad they refuse strongly every thing related to "clean" "right" "good" "justice" "honest" as if they were programed to understand every thing backward: corruption = good , injustice= right , fraude= smart ..... the more i listen to the loyalistes supporters the more i see why this country will never heal .

dont even try to tell me murr was your ally he did this or did that do not even dare this with me i am one of many Aounistes who did not vote for him in 2005 and never did in the past. I always considered him a scum bag not worth even the insult .

[Chief]

Originally Posted by The Jade

I hope that the FPM will have the balls to sue this guy and not leave it here.

The FPM should go forward with this lawsuit once and for all, and I will be extremely pissed if nothing is done.

It will only show that the whole thing was a media stunt and that their accusations were just empty words

sue ? sue what and for what? do u really trust the juridical system in lebanon ? if yes how do you explain the 4 generals who were arrested for 4 years with no charges?

[sandraman]

Originally Posted by German_FPM

Plz before writting such message: give us numbers and facts...
For the number i have till now... NOOOOOOOOO
FPM won:

Jbeil
Keserwain
Jezzin
Maten
Baabda
Zgharta

Koura (eh koura cz the diff was 1400 lal 2000 wel seni 3emlo al diff)
Zahleh (zett al chi, rje3 3al ar`am)

Ashrafyeh w Bcharri hawli heni!
Kif tele3 ma3ak gheir chi!!

ashrafiyeh the sunnis make the difference, there is 6029 sunnis, 1777 shia and 330 druze and the difference was around 2500 votes

[CitizenOfTheRepublic]

Originally Posted by Nasser

Who are you to classify people as stupid ? Many of them are engineers and doctors and college graduates and PhD holders , many educated people on both sides , who voted against you = they just weren't satisfied with your speech and performance . therefor I say again , try to appeal people not push them more to be more extreme against you.

I've been trying to say that for 2 days now...

Antagonizing and insulting your opponents is NOT the way anymore. We need to be very diplomatic about it... We are creating enemies left and right and further motivating them.

Learn from Jumblat for God's sake, he is probably THE most unethical politician there is, but also one of the smartest. He has not said a single word against GMA for a while.

We antagonize everyone and then wonder why the whole world is against us. We need to be diplomatic, yelling is not always the way.

[Ataraxia]

Originally Posted by sandraman

ashrafiyeh the sunnis make the difference, there is 6029 sunnis, 1777 shia and 330 druze and the difference was around 2500 votes

Not all of the sunnis vote. Maybe 3,000 voted or so.

[Nasser]

Originally Posted by CitizenOfTheRepublic

I've been trying to say that for 2 days now...

Antagonizing and insulting your opponents is NOT the way anymore. We need to be very diplomatic about it... We are creating enemies left and right and further motivating them.

Learn from Jumblat for God's sake, he is probably THE most unethical politician there is, but also one of the smartest. He has not said a single word against GMA for a while.

We antagonize everyone and then wonder why the whole world is against us. We need to be diplomatic, yelling is not always the way.

Exactly man , that's what I have been trying to do. I am trying to have a respectful debate and exchange of ideas , but what I am getting in return is "people are stupid" ... typical mentality of Lebanese : I am 100% right , the others are 100% wrong.

Anyway I will leave it as it is for now :). got to sleep so I can study tomorrow for my final exam.

[Zouxi]

Hariri won because of this fu***** law...

17 christians mps are elected by sunni and durzi majority, only 4 christian mps are elected by chi3i majority..That's already a -13 handicap

FPM won in the districts where the chi3a votes are significant and make a balance, without the need of the chi3i votes: in jbeil, baabda and jezzine (we got the christian majority in these districts).

whereas the 14 feb won in zahleh, koura and achrafieh because of sunni votes.3+5+7= that's another 15 mps handicap..

17+15=32...we were -32 mps handicap by the sunni and durzi influence, we can't achieve more...

In other words, the chi3a votes helped the opposition in 4 christian mps, whereas the sunni and durzi votes helped 14 feb. camp in 32 christian mps...

A dramatic law, michel aoun is the main responsible for it...

Money, sectarian tone, expats, all these factors came in second place, because even with all these factors the opposition got 55% of the electors in lebanon, so the law is the problem of the opposition loss and not the other factors ( these facotrs helped in narrowing the gap, but didn't give them the majority of votes)...

Enjoy now a 4 year of hariri rule because of our stupid mistake..Don't blame anybody but ourselves...

[sandraman]

Originally Posted by Ataraxia

Not all of the sunnis vote. Maybe 3,000 voted or so.

next tuesday , interior ministry will publish numbers in details, so we can figure out how the numbers were distributed

[Mahmoum]

Originally Posted by Rooney

ridiculous

95 planes ???? Rafic Hariri airport can't handle this amount , they have a maximum of 22 gates !

YEs, and more,
Below a PrinstScreen of the traffic two days before the election day, WITHOUT the charter flies

[sandraman]

Originally Posted by Zouxi

Hariri won because of this fu***** law...

17 christians mps are elected by sunni and durzi majority, only 4 christian mps are elected by chi3i majority..That's already a -13 handicap

FPM won in the districts where the chi3a votes are significant and make a balance, without the need of the chi3i votes: in jbeil, baabda and jezzine (we got the christian majority in these districts).

whereas the 14 feb won in zahleh, koura and achrafieh because of sunni votes.3+5+7= that's another 15 mps handicap..

17+15=32...we were -32 mps handicap by the sunni and durzi influence, we can't achieve more...

In other words, the chi3a votes helped the opposition in 4 mps, whereas the sunni and durzi votes helped them in 32 mps...

A dramatic law, michel aoun is the main responsible for it...

Money, sectarian tone, expats, all these factors came in second place, because even with all these factors the opposition got 55% of the electors in lebanon, so the law is the problem of the opposition loss and not the other factors ( these facotrs helped in narrowing the gap, but didn't give them the majority of votes)...

Enjoy now a 4 year of hariri rule because of our stupid mistake..Don't blame anybody but ourselves...

it was the only available election law that could pass, otherwise we have to return back to ghazi kenaan law. that means, zghorta and jezzine au claire de la lune, and i'm not sure we can win baabda because add alieh and baabda results you see that 14 march win, also we won't have the chance to see how ashrafieh,batroun and koura will vote