History is about to repeat itself! - Page 3 - The Orange Room

alsmadimhammad

انا اردني سني و لست لبناني ولكني اتابع الوضع لبناني بشكل كبير
ربما لن تنشروا ما اقول ولكن للتاريخ
استطيع ان اقول ان اشرف انسان عربي و ربما ان اقوى انسان ليس في لبنان فقط و انما في العلم العربي و ربما العالم هو الئيس العماد ميشيل عون
انتم من الداخل ربما لا ترون الامور الا من من منظار واحد هو الحب و الكراهيه ولكن المراقب للوضع لبناني يرا ان الحرب التي شنة على شخص العماد ميشيل عون ربما لو شنة على شخصيه مثل غاندي او اوباما اوربما طارق بن زياد لكان دمر بشكل لا شك فيه
ولكن ما ظهر ان اجتماع الكون كله ضد هذا الشخص لوحده لم يؤدي الى تراجعه قيد انمله انما في الحقيقه هو تقدم بشكل واضح
و الحقيقه اني قمت بالاطلاع على تفاصيل الارقام لانتخابيه فوجدة انه لوحده يمثل رافعه مسيحيه ساحقه تستحق هذة الظاهره ان يوقف عندها ففي التاريخ لا يمر انسان بهذه القدره الهائله يقف في وجه الدنيا و الدين و المال و 10000 وافد 30000 نقل نفوس لوحده و ينتصر
نعم ينتصر فالحقيقه انه انتصر لو ان الوضع مقلوب وكان سعد الحريري في نفس الموقف انا اراهنكم انه لن يحصل على مقعد واحد فقط
الكتائب و القوات و حرب والكنيسه و الديمغرافيا كلهم اضافه الى كل النفوذ و المال و التجيير السني الواضح و التخويف و كل الاسلحه لم تستطع ان تاخذ من طريق هذا الانسان لوحده
انا اقول ان ما يحمله هذا الرجل يجب ان يحكى في الكتب يدرس بشكل استثنائي عن سبب هذه الظاهره
نعم انا الانسان العربي السني كما كل العرب ينظرون الى هذا الرجل على انه المتمتع بالشرعيه الوطنيه الحقيقيه و انه فخر لكل لبناني ان يكون فيهم رجل مثل العماد ميشيل عون
كما هو فخر لنا ان يكون من امتنا العربيه رجل مثله

geogeo758

when will the numbers be posted by baroud based on the number of voters by sect, etc?

FPM_JOHNNY

Honestly to the person who started this thread.....M14ers dont care about history. They dont care if Syria re-enters the country. They do as their told. Sickening but true. Our brother and sister Christians just stand there like puppets. they are tools to Saad. Ketayeb and LF hhave no strategy or goals. They might have personal goals but I guess their followers dont see it. One day it is going to hit them, hit them bad. Funny thing is we always tell them it is going to happen.............good topic too bad people started talking about random stuff again.

Jumpo

History repeats itself but not from 2005.

When June 8th came, it took us back to 1992. And the next period will be similar to the 1992 to 2004. The details:

0- In a nutshell, the country will be governed by the regional powers (Syria+KSA) with international blessing

1- 7ariri will:
a- lead the government in general
b- will set the economical agenda and blowing up the debt (3alf el dayn)
c- use its political power to increase its financial power and vice-versa
d- use christian pawns to show its inclusive side
e- control the presidency
f- turn a blind eye with respect to the Hizballah weapon
g- stop any reform projects (especially to the judiciary system)
h- deprive the Lebanese people from the basics (electricity, water,...)
2- Jumblat will continue to be the parasite sucking the blood from Hariri and the country in general.

3- Berri will be the Shiite cover for the government and will get his cut.

4- Hizbollah will:
a- turn a blind eye on the bad government and corruption
b- keep to its weapons and increase the arsenal
c- get ready for the next Israeli war

5- Jins 3atil (long list including religious figures) will
a- be drunk with the victory of screwing up Michel Aoun's plans
b- blame Michel Aoun when they realize that they are marginalized by Sa3d
c- call for federalism and pray for Israel to interfere

6- As for the General, I am not sure :-( He is unpredictable and uncontrollable as was described by the US administration. How much can he do with 27 deputies in a country that knows nothing about accountability and a people that adores its butchers. Actually, I am looking forward to his speech on Wednesday.

In summary, the country will be back to the Syrian status quo of the 1990s.
Moreover, it will be ready for another round of internal war whenever the Americans instruct Jumblat to tell us that the car bombs came from Da7yi.

J. Abizeid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jumpo

History repeats itself but not from 2005.

When June 8th came, it took us back to 1992. And the next period will be similar to the 1992 to 2004. The details:

0- In a nutshell, the country will be governed by the regional powers (Syria+KSA) with international blessing

1- 7ariri will:
a- lead the government in general
b- will set the economical agenda and blowing up the debt (3alf el dayn)
c- use its political power to increase its financial power and vice-versa
d- use christian pawns to show its inclusive side
e- control the presidency
f- turn a blind eye with respect to the Hizballah weapon
g- stop any reform projects (especially to the judiciary system)
h- deprive the Lebanese people from the basics (electricity, water,...)
2- Jumblat will continue to be the parasite sucking the blood from Hariri and the country in general.

3- Berri will be the Shiite cover for the government and will get his cut.

4- Hizbollah will:
a- turn a blind eye on the bad government and corruption
b- keep to its weapons and increase the arsenal
c- get ready for the next Israeli war

5- Jins 3atil (long list including religious figures) will
a- be drunk with the victory of screwing up Michel Aoun's plans
b- blame Michel Aoun when they realize that they are marginalized by Sa3d
c- call for federalism and pray for Israel to interfere

6- As for the General, I am not sure :-( He is unpredictable and uncontrollable as was described by the US administration. How much can he do with 27 deputies in a country that knows nothing about accountability and a people that adores its butchers. Actually, I am looking forward to his speech on Wednesday.

In summary, the country will be back to the Syrian status quo of the 1990s.
Moreover, it will be ready for another round of internal war whenever the Americans instruct Jumblat to tell us that the car bombs came from Da7yi.

The good news:
They will no longer accuse the opposition as pro Syrian.
GMA will be able to sleep at night like a baby while Sha3ba Lubnan el habal wondering why life is so tough.
Hey, we are such generous people. We love to pay our electric, water, and telephone bills twice. We are so ******* confused we don’t know if we Arabs or Europeans but we certainly know we are the ones who invented democracy and the alphabet. Just a minute, I take it back, democracy and Christianity were invented by the Americans… I think…
What do you think?

Jumpo

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Abizeid

The good news:
They will no longer accuse the opposition as pro Syrian.
GMA will be able to sleep at night like a baby while Sha3ba Lubnan el habal wondering why life is so tough.
Hey, we are such generous people. We love to pay our electric, water, and telephone bills twice. We are so ******* confused we don’t know if we Arabs or Europeans but we certainly know we are the ones who invented democracy and the alphabet. Just a minute, I take it back, democracy and Christianity were invented by the Americans… I think…
What do you think?

small correction: Sha3b Lubnan el Ghashim (rhymes with 3azim)
you know, my heart suffers with those who believed that this country can be reformed. Eh w ma tinsa: bitkoun 3am ta3mol ski, w bnoss se3a bitsir 3am tisba7

ziadmf

Quote:

Originally Posted by elador

In Keserwan GMA won against all parties and families that have nothing in common combined (LF+Kataeb+Ketleh+Bon+boueiz+Khazen<FPM)

i leave it for you to imagine the ratio of FPM compared to LF or kataeb

Sorry but you forgot also Batrak and the president
Regards,

Zayn

I keep hearing about this 1960 Law as the reason for the defeat. Why, O' Why would Aoun have pushed for the 1960 Law after May 2008 if it would cost him the election?

ziadmf

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaKhassak

this is from al akhbar newspaper, as you can see the sunni vote seems to have been split equally between both lists, on average march 14th lists got 6-7 thousands votes from druze more than the opposition list, but the opposition lists got approx 16 thousands votes from shiites than the opposition list, so the difference between druze and shiites votes is approx 10 thousand, and the opposition list won baabda by 7-8 thousands votes.

Anyone has any doubts that it was the shiite votes that made FPM win in Baabda?

Hikmat Dib VS Gharyos :
Maronite: 10943 vs 10936
Orthodox: 729 vs 406
Catholique: 352 VS 454
Moukhtalef Massihi 2990 vs 3406

Total Christian: 15014 vs 15202
Alin Aoun VS Bou Assi
Maronite: 11027 vs 10831
Orthodox: 625 vs 378
Catholique: 357 VS 456
Moukhtalef Massihi 2989 vs 3261

Total Christian: 14998 vs 14926

Just to say that LF, Kataeb, Dory Chamoun, Gharyos whith all his noufouz got in Christian votes as FPM
So 50% of Christian support GMA
and 12.5% support LF
12.5% support Kataeb
12.5% support Dory
12.5% support Edmond gharyous
No further comments

lebanese1

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziadmf

Hikmat Dib VS Gharyos :
Maronite: 10943 vs 10936
Orthodox: 729 vs 406
Catholique: 352 VS 454
Moukhtalef Massihi 2990 vs 3406

Total Christian: 15014 vs 15202
Alin Aoun VS Bou Assi
Maronite: 11027 vs 10831
Orthodox: 625 vs 378
Catholique: 357 VS 456
Moukhtalef Massihi 2989 vs 3261

Total Christian: 14998 vs 14926

Just to say that LF, Kataeb, Dory Chamoun, Gharyos whith all his noufouz got in Christian votes as FPM
So 50% of Christian support GMA
and 12.5% support LF
12.5% support Kataeb
12.5% support Dory
12.5% support Edmond gharyous
No further comments

ONCE AGAIN, this is NOT true. There is a category called moukhtalaf tawa2ef. If you want the total in the shiite category: 18000. (there is 34 000 on the laweyi7 shateb. Total in the druze category: 10 000 (24 000 on laweyi7 shateb). Total in the sunni category: 1600 (8 000 on lawei7 chateb).

This means that there is alot of Druze and Sunni in the moukhtalaf category. So most of the 8500 we got in the moukhtalaf category are Christians. While a big part of the 9500 they got in the same category are Druze/Sunni!